If we're talking about the difference between "ought" and "is", I might as well back up and ask you to justify your claim that all the other races are engaged in a race war. Wouldn't it make more sense to claim that they are just individuals trying the best they can to survive?
You say I'm asking that everyone "suppress" their innate tribalism? No, that's a strawman. I've consistently advocated that we can shape our tribalism, in ourselves and our immediate communities, to increase its effectiveness for things that matter, and decrease it for things that don't. I think the clearest place where you and I disagree is over what matters and what doesn't.
For example, your claim about Jews and verbal IQs is another of those bad-confidence-interval statistics. But based on it, I assume you would want everyone to place all Jews in their in-group. I might ask for something different. I would ask that people look directly for people with a high verbal IQ and place those people in their in group. You can figure that out just by talking to them for a few minutes.
Actually I wouldn't even ask for that. Because I've met a number of people with high verbal IQs who were also sociopaths!!
My point is, we have a choice in what we decide are good factors, or bad factors, in building our tribe. Tribalism is instinctive, yes. But the shape and quality of those tribes is deliberately flexible.
Do you think that skin color correlates with something important, consistently enough to place skin color itself on the list, and teach your kids and friends and family through your own words and behavior that skin color is something they should use to judge other things?
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Date: 2017-02-12 12:08 am (UTC)You say I'm asking that everyone "suppress" their innate tribalism? No, that's a strawman. I've consistently advocated that we can shape our tribalism, in ourselves and our immediate communities, to increase its effectiveness for things that matter, and decrease it for things that don't. I think the clearest place where you and I disagree is over what matters and what doesn't.
For example, your claim about Jews and verbal IQs is another of those bad-confidence-interval statistics. But based on it, I assume you would want everyone to place all Jews in their in-group. I might ask for something different. I would ask that people look directly for people with a high verbal IQ and place those people in their in group. You can figure that out just by talking to them for a few minutes.
Actually I wouldn't even ask for that. Because I've met a number of people with high verbal IQs who were also sociopaths!!
My point is, we have a choice in what we decide are good factors, or bad factors, in building our tribe. Tribalism is instinctive, yes. But the shape and quality of those tribes is deliberately flexible.
Do you think that skin color correlates with something important, consistently enough to place skin color itself on the list, and teach your kids and friends and family through your own words and behavior that skin color is something they should use to judge other things?