If Trump does fail and hurt the GOP as much as we hope, then it does seem like a 'damned if you do, and damned if you don't' situation for Republicans. It's a tough hand for a Republican to play, no?
Where one can clearly see the difference, I think, is the critical issue of what sort of nominations she will make to the Supreme Court and the federal bench in general, as well as for the regulatory agencies, I guess. She is hawkish and too close to Big Money for our taste, but there is a reason why conservative Republicans hate her, particular those with social issues closer to their hearts.
In case you didn't figure it out yet, there is no R and D, instead it is R/D/Wall Street/Corruption/ versus working people. Any working person that understands his own long term interest should be against R/D party.
Do you believe that Trump is more for working people than the R/D/Wall Street/Corruption establishment? It is true, I suppose, that he does angle for their votes in particular, trying to sound like he is for them, but I think this strikes most of us as just a pose to win greatness for himself. I see him as a clear Establishment figure who is perhaps too ignorant to actually run the Establishment and government with any propriety - that he is playing a game that he doesn't understand, focusing only on his ego.
Yes, I do believe. Do I know? No, I don't know. But, we all know who Hillary is for. The way establishment on both sides goes after him, and support her is very telling.
To say that the Republican "establishment" is after Trump is, simply put, to buy into Trump's bullshit.
The GOP establishment is, in fact, split. There are party stalwarts like Gingrich and Christie, who have signed on fully with Trump's fact-free, emotion-driven politics. They have no specific policy commitments or any interest in principles; they care only about power, and they've calculated that supporting Trump will help them to obtain/retain it. Then you have leaders like Ryan and McConnell, who are uncomfortable with their standard-bearer but see no path forward other than to support Trump. They will split with him only if it becomes clear that alignment with him will undermine their own personal careers. Then you have Republican opponents to Trump, who generally don't oppose his policies so much as they worry that his strategy will lead to big losses for the GOP in November.
Trump may generally worry the political establishment, but this in itself doesn't mean he stands with those outside the establishment. It may just indicate, instead, that they understand how poisonous and destructive his approach to politics would be in any real-world environment. In truth, Trump cares only about himself, and his own voice is the only one he'll hear.
Mr. Genius, as always you are in everybody's head and know exactly what they think. On the other hand you just proved that establishment, regardless what they say and how they act, are for themselves and nothing else. And if you say that Dems aren't worse, then nothing will ever rehabilitate you.
Trump cares only about himself, and his own voice is the only one he'll hear.
Do you any basis for saying this? Besides repeating political pundits.
Everything Trump does is a showcase of his self-absorbed arrogance.
And narcissism--don't forget that one! If he's not a
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<p dir="ltr"><i>Everything Trump does is a showcase of his self-absorbed arrogance. </i></p> <p dir="ltr">And narcissism--don't forget that one! If he's not a <a href="<a href="<a href=">http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015</a>">textbook example of narcissistic personality disorder</a>, I'll eat this phone I'm typing on!</p>
Maureen Dowd has a wickedly delicious column on Trump's mental health, here (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/opinion/sunday/crazy-about-the-presidency.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region), if you haven't seen it already.
I'll will, as soon as you'll tell me what Hillary sacrificed for anybody. Just because press doesn't ask her any questions, doesn't mean she is perfect.
While I agree with you, at least in principle, I'm not sure there is a solution. I also think we can survive any President...heck we survived Carter ;) I think our downfall (as a (relatively) free country will come from our Judicial system.
Well ...
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Date: 2016-08-07 09:32 pm (UTC)Conservative Republicans hate everyone except other conservative Republicans lol!
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Date: 2016-08-07 04:55 pm (UTC)The GOP establishment is, in fact, split. There are party stalwarts like Gingrich and Christie, who have signed on fully with Trump's fact-free, emotion-driven politics. They have no specific policy commitments or any interest in principles; they care only about power, and they've calculated that supporting Trump will help them to obtain/retain it. Then you have leaders like Ryan and McConnell, who are uncomfortable with their standard-bearer but see no path forward other than to support Trump. They will split with him only if it becomes clear that alignment with him will undermine their own personal careers. Then you have Republican opponents to Trump, who generally don't oppose his policies so much as they worry that his strategy will lead to big losses for the GOP in November.
Trump may generally worry the political establishment, but this in itself doesn't mean he stands with those outside the establishment. It may just indicate, instead, that they understand how poisonous and destructive his approach to politics would be in any real-world environment. In truth, Trump cares only about himself, and his own voice is the only one he'll hear.
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Date: 2016-08-07 05:49 pm (UTC)Trump cares only about himself, and his own voice is the only one he'll hear.
Do you any basis for saying this? Besides repeating political pundits.
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Date: 2016-08-07 08:55 pm (UTC)Remind me again, when Trump was asked what he has sacrificed for this country, what did he say he did?
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Date: 2016-08-07 09:46 pm (UTC)Everything Trump does is a showcase of his self-absorbed arrogance.
And narcissism--don't forget that one! If he's not a
<p dir="ltr">And narcissism--don't forget that one! If he's not a <a href="<a href="<a href=">http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015</a>">textbook example of narcissistic personality disorder</a>, I'll eat this phone I'm typing on!</p>
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Date: 2016-08-07 09:53 pm (UTC)I mean, hate to be the one to tell ya, cause I bet that phone ain't tasty, but so ya know.
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Date: 2016-08-07 05:04 pm (UTC)I also think we can survive any President...heck we survived Carter ;)
I think our downfall (as a (relatively) free country will come from our Judicial system.
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Date: 2016-08-07 05:41 pm (UTC)That's exactly why Hillary is the end for this country.
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Date: 2016-08-07 08:54 pm (UTC)I'm all ears for how you see that happening.
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