[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons


If Trump does fail and hurt the GOP as much as we hope, then it does seem like a 'damned if you do, and damned if you don't' situation for Republicans. It's a tough hand for a Republican to play, no?

Well ...

Date: 2016-08-07 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
Policy-wise, she's pretty much a moderate Republican.

Date: 2016-08-07 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Conservative republicans also hate moderate republicans.

Date: 2016-08-07 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshaz.livejournal.com

Conservative Republicans hate everyone except other conservative Republicans lol!

Date: 2016-08-07 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
In case you didn't figure it out yet, there is no R and D, instead it is R/D/Wall Street/Corruption/ versus working people. Any working person that understands his own long term interest should be against R/D party.

Date: 2016-08-07 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Yes, I do believe. Do I know? No, I don't know. But, we all know who Hillary is for. The way establishment on both sides goes after him, and support her is very telling.

Date: 2016-08-07 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com
To say that the Republican "establishment" is after Trump is, simply put, to buy into Trump's bullshit.

The GOP establishment is, in fact, split. There are party stalwarts like Gingrich and Christie, who have signed on fully with Trump's fact-free, emotion-driven politics. They have no specific policy commitments or any interest in principles; they care only about power, and they've calculated that supporting Trump will help them to obtain/retain it. Then you have leaders like Ryan and McConnell, who are uncomfortable with their standard-bearer but see no path forward other than to support Trump. They will split with him only if it becomes clear that alignment with him will undermine their own personal careers. Then you have Republican opponents to Trump, who generally don't oppose his policies so much as they worry that his strategy will lead to big losses for the GOP in November.

Trump may generally worry the political establishment, but this in itself doesn't mean he stands with those outside the establishment. It may just indicate, instead, that they understand how poisonous and destructive his approach to politics would be in any real-world environment. In truth, Trump cares only about himself, and his own voice is the only one he'll hear.

Date: 2016-08-07 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Mr. Genius, as always you are in everybody's head and know exactly what they think. On the other hand you just proved that establishment, regardless what they say and how they act, are for themselves and nothing else. And if you say that Dems aren't worse, then nothing will ever rehabilitate you.

Trump cares only about himself, and his own voice is the only one he'll hear.

Do you any basis for saying this? Besides repeating political pundits.

Date: 2016-08-07 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Everything Trump does is a showcase of his self-absorbed arrogance.

Remind me again, when Trump was asked what he has sacrificed for this country, what did he say he did?

Date: 2016-08-07 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshaz.livejournal.com

Everything Trump does is a showcase of his self-absorbed arrogance. 


And narcissism--don't forget that one! If he's not a

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<p dir="ltr"><i>Everything Trump does is a showcase of his self-absorbed arrogance. </i></p>
<p dir="ltr">And narcissism--don't forget that one! If he's not a <a href="<a href="<a href=">http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015</a>">textbook example of narcissistic personality disorder</a>, I'll eat this phone I'm typing on!</p>
Edited Date: 2016-08-07 09:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-08-07 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
...your link still doesn't work.

I mean, hate to be the one to tell ya, cause I bet that phone ain't tasty, but so ya know.
Edited Date: 2016-08-07 09:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-08-08 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
I'll will, as soon as you'll tell me what Hillary sacrificed for anybody. Just because press doesn't ask her any questions, doesn't mean she is perfect.

Date: 2016-08-08 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
That's the most juvenile thing you've said here in awhile. Sad!

Date: 2016-08-07 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
While I agree with you, at least in principle, I'm not sure there is a solution.
I also think we can survive any President...heck we survived Carter ;)
I think our downfall (as a (relatively) free country will come from our Judicial system.

Date: 2016-08-07 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
I think our downfall (as a (relatively) free country will come from our Judicial system.
That's exactly why Hillary is the end for this country.

Date: 2016-08-07 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
"I think our downfall (as a (relatively) free country will come from our Judicial system. "

I'm all ears for how you see that happening.

Date: 2016-08-08 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I wondered the same thing.

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