In summary:

[wind-shadow2008.livejournal.com]

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[blackdwarv.livejournal.com]

#hyperbole2016

[robertainnc.livejournal.com]

Oh! False equivalencies are so much FUN!

[not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com]

yes, if you don't vote for Trump, the Hillary will LET PEOPLE KEEP THEIR RIGHTS AND NOT TEAR DOWN PROGRESS! That's totally like Stalin/Hitler.

[unnamed525.livejournal.com]

Sick burn.

[fieryphoenix.livejournal.com]

Screw your false dichotomy. I'm voting third party anyway.

[wind-shadow2008.livejournal.com]

[chron-job.livejournal.com]

The funny thing is, that as a nation in 1941, we DID vote for Stalin.... because Hitler was worse.

[peristaltor.livejournal.com]

We laugh, but FDR was encouraged to be more like Hilter. He sent an envoy to interview the dude when FDR got into office, and was horrified by his antisemitism.

Still, people in the 30s lambasted him for not being more of a fascist. This is something more should remember.

[rose-cat.livejournal.com]

Oh please.

[wind-shadow2008.livejournal.com]

You disagree? I think there have been factions on both sides who have been pretty vocal about how evil the other candidate is, which is how I read this cartoon.

[moonshaz.livejournal.com]

I'm glad to see most of the replies are pointing out how ludicrous this is. I don't care WHAT you believe about Hillary; out of all the garbage I've heard being bandied about, none of it comes CLOSE to painting her as another Stalin.

The Trump-to-Hitler comparison is pretty, apt, imo; but for this to work, BOTH comparisons would have to be at least somewhere near accurate.

[wind-shadow2008.livejournal.com]

Genuinely surprised by how people took this, actually. I wasn't trying to compare Hilary to Stalin (or even Trump to Hitler). I read the cartoon more as a comment about how the loudest factions on both sides attack the other.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

"Alright, blah blah blah. Sorry I had to stop you. Yeah, let’s talk about the Green Party for just a moment, or third parties, getting a third party movement off the ground here in this country. Because we are sick of the two party system!

Here’s how you fucking do that: you run people not just for fucking president every four fucking years.

I have a problem with the Greens, I have a problem with the Libertarians. I have a problem with these fake, attention seeking, grandstanding Green/Libertarian party candidates who pop up every four years, like mushrooms in shit, saying that they're building a third party. And those of us who don't have a home in the Republican Party, don't have a home in the Democratic Party, can't get behind every Democratic position or Republican position, should gravitate toward these third parties. And help build a third party movement by every four fucking years voting for one of these assholes like Jill fucking Stein, who I'm sure is a lovely person, she's only an asshole in this aspect.

If you're interested in building a third party, a viable third party, you don’t start with president. You don't start by running someone for fucking president.

Where are the Green Party candidates for city councils? For county councils? For state legislatures? For state assessor? For state insurance commissioner? For governor? For fucking dogcatcher? I would be SO willing to vote for Green Party candidates who are starting at the bottom, grassroots, bottom up, building a third party, a viable third party.

You don't do that by trotting out the reanimated corpse of Ralph fucking Nader every four fucking years. Or his doppelgänger, whoever it is now, Jill Stein and some asshole-to-be-named four years from now. You start by running grassroots, local campaigns. And there've been — and I'm sure we're going hear from lots of people out there listening — there have been a couple of Green Party candidates who’ve run in other races here and there across the country. But no sustained effort to build a Green Party nationally. Just this griping, bullshitty, grandstanding, fault-finding, purity-testing, holier than thou-ing, that we are all subjected to every four fucking years by the Green Party candidate.

And the folks, including you caller — and I love you and I respect you and we’re having this debate and I'm not treating you with kid gloves because I respect you — who are fooled by them, who are sucked into this bullshit, who are tricked by these grandstanding, attention-seeking, bullshit-spewing charlatans, into wasting your vote.

Which is what you are going to do, I'm sorry to say, to circle back to the top of your call. You are essentially, if you're voting for Jill Stein, helping to potentially elect Donald J. Trump president of these United States. Which would be a catastrophe.

Which is what some people say that they want. People supported Ralph Nader in 2000 and said there was no difference between Al Gore and George W. Bush, therefore we could all afford to throw our votes away, protest-style, on Ralph Nader, who had no hope of getting elected, because there was no difference between Bush and Gore.

These same people, at the same time, said that George Bush was so manifestly obviously terrible that he would bring the revolution if he got himself elected somehow. They didn’t say this about Gore, he wouldn’t bring the revolution. They’re exactly the same, exactly as awful, but one would bring the revolution and one wouldn’t. Which means they weren't exactly the same and they weren't equally awful.

And we're hearing the same thing now about Hillary and Donald. That they’re both equally awful. They're both equally terrible, corrupt two party system, fuck it, fuck it, fuck it. Fuck them both, fuck both their houses! Vote for Jill Stein!

And if Donald should get elected, oh he’s so terrible, so much worse than the equally awful Hillary Clinton, that his election will bring the revolution."

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

"It's bullshit.

The revolution did not come in 2000 when George W. Bush got close enough to winning to steal the White House. It will not come if Donald J. Trump gets his ass elected.

Disaster will come. And the people who’ll suffer are not going to be the pasty white Green Party supporters — pasty white Jill Stein and her pasty white supporters. The people who’ll suffer are going to be people of color. People of minority faiths. Queer people. Women.

Don’t do it. Don't throw your vote away on Jill Stein/vote for, bankshot-style, Donald Trump.

And if you want to build a viable third party, more power to you. I could see myself voting for a Green Party candidate for president in 25 years, after I've seen Green Party candidates getting elected to state legislatures, getting elected to governorships, getting elected to Congress. Then you can run some legitimate motherfucker for president."

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

(The Green Party's mealy-mouthed nonsense response and a brutal numerical dissection of it are left, at the end of the article, for the benefit of the observer. (http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/07/19/24362128/dan-savage-on-jill-stein-just-no))