Two NYPD officers were shot and killed today. Some Republicans imply blaming Mayor di Blasio

[telemann.livejournal.com]

So today, two Brooklyn police officers were shot and killed in the Bed-Sty section of Brooklyn while sitting in a squad car. The assistant then fled and ran down into the subway system, where he shot himself in the head, and died on scene. New York Times link here.

Some Republicans have been ramping up the hostility, including former Republican governor George Pataki, who earlier this evening blamed both Mayor di Blasio and Attorney General Eric Holder. But not the NRA.






The spokesman for the NYPD police union, Pat Lynch, was even harsher tonight:

After the murder of two NYPD officers on Saturday, the outspoken head of the city's primary police union blamed protesters and Mayor Bill de Blasio for the deaths of Officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos.

"There's blood on many hands tonight," NYC Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association president Pat Lynch said Saturday night, ratcheting up already frigid tensions between City Hall and One Police Plaza. Lynch blamed those who "incited violence on the street under the guise of protest," -- a reference to the swell of demonstrations in New York City and across the U.S. in the wake of a grand jury decision to not indict a New York police officer for killing an unarmed black man, Eric Garner, earlier this fall.

Lynch then went after Mayor de Blasio: "That blood on the hands starts on the steps of City Hall, in the office of the mayor." He went on to praise the fallen officers, and said that those responsible for the killing will be held responsible.

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So who is going to be held responsible, since the who shot the police offers and subsequently killed himself. Or is Mr. Lynch making a threat against someone else (marchers, protestors, Mayor di Blasio?)

Last Friday night, during a pro-police-support rally at City Hall, some police officers donned "I can breathe" shirts," twisting the use of Eric Gardner's pleas for air before he died at the hands of a NYPD officer, in Staten Island, when he was arrested for selling loosies on a city street.

Comments

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

On top of some of that 'Occupy' energy over the one-percenters, I suppose the tinder is a bit dry and things could really blaze.

[madscience.livejournal.com]

It would be just as senseless to blame the NRA. The blame belongs to the corrupt system that protects bad cops. Justified or not, this was predictable and inevitable.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Of course, when some big name people, Di Blasio for example, pour gasoline on fire, it's predictable.

[madscience.livejournal.com]

He did nothing of the sort. He showed extreme restraint; he could have painted the swine in a much worse light and still have been entirely truthful.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

So, I assume, you believe the all that bs, like being worried about his son.

[atlantacharmer2.livejournal.com]

Police and their supporters need to place the blame for the murder of these policemen where it belongs--on Ismaaiyl Brinsley. I didn't hear them blame Clive Bundy for the actions of these two lunatics http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/09/las-vegas-shooting-officers-dead-possible-white-supremacists/

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Yeah that question you just replied to, was a red herring.

So thanks for your comment.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

You are a terrible human being.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Do you know me? I assume, on the other hand, you are a great one, correct?

[planet-x-zero.livejournal.com]

Di Blasio gave a rational, sympathetic, humanist response. The NYPD is used to handjobs from the mayors office. Thankfully that's over.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

Lynch is a deranged psychopath.

He has a legitimate job to do as PBA head to advocate forcefully for his membership.

But he cannot cope with the concept that there is a mayor in office who does actually has the nerve to speak even a little bit of truth about how years of "broken windows" policing has poisoned relations with communities and led certain officers to become out of control. For speaking in very mild terms about this and making moderate changes to policing policy, De Blasio has enraged Lynch.

These murders are tragic, but it is really time for a gut check when Al Sharpton's response is standard for classiness and good citizenship compared to our former governor and Lynch.

[interdictor.livejournal.com]

Those murders are not tragic.

[madscience.livejournal.com]

They might prove to be for the greater good, but they're still tragic.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Their families sure as shit think so. People killing each other in the streets is not a good thing.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

I think most normal people would call them tragic in the completely normative sense of the word.


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adjective
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causing or characterized by extreme distress or sorrow.
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regrettable, shameful, terrible, horrible, awful, deplorable, lamentable, piteous, dreadful, grievous
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antonyms: fortunate, lucky
suffering extreme distress or sorrow.
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antonyms: joyful, happy
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[malasadas.livejournal.com]

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Hahaha!

That's quite a show! What time are the matinees?

[interdictor.livejournal.com]

The oppressed finally make a real stand and you side with the state. Why am I not surprised.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

This gentleman was apparently suicidal and tried to take his ex girlfriend out first.

If you are trying to dial up a martyr for a violent revolution, you've picked a crappy one.

And nice job cheering for violent revolt while you are sitting on your expatriate ass in the country you chose because you figure tax evasion is easiest while some of us live, work, and are trying to help change the places you want to see engulfed in flames.

FUCK YOU.

[madscience.livejournal.com]

I think he shot his ex in a moment of passion, figured his life was over, and decided to redeem himself with his last act.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

Same thing I said below.

Until I hear news that you've died in a hail of gunfire or have run off to your own unibomber cabin, you can go to hell too, you fucking hypocrite.

[interdictor.livejournal.com]

Oh shut the fuck up you moron. You're lashing out like a spoiled brat. You and people just like you have caused these problems and now you're pissed off that other people are fighting back in their own way and that some of us are rooting them on. Christ, if I were a superstitious dirt-worshiper, I'd pray for you to be killed in a no-knock warrant raid -- just one of the many policies resulting from your state-supremacist ideology. Please die.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

Pick up a gun and live by your professed beliefs, coward. You have the nerve to call anyone a brat when you openly want our homes in flames?

Go to hell.

[madscience.livejournal.com]

All things in their time. Right now I am still enjoying living, but don't be surprised when that is not the case for people whom the police have driven to desperation.

[interdictor.livejournal.com]

You're part of the reason I left -- you and your ilk are ruining the very few decent things about the US. I knew I could never out vote you -- you keep adding more and more unskilled, illiterate, innumerate government dependents on purpose. I had no chance, so of course I got the fuck out. Now I do want to see you suffer for building the largest, most powerful state in the history of the world. And it looks like you are suffering. And so that's awesome.

But there are a lot of innocents whose lives are being ruined because of you state supremacists -- innocents who can't leave like I did. And when they manage to take out some of your state agents, god bless 'em! Good for them. And fuck you.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

Go cry yourself a fucking river, you fucking hypocrite.

If you believe half the things you say you believe you'd have gotten up and led your revolution yourself. You're not dead or living in a cabin in the Yukon sending pipe bombs so I can only conclude that you are either a coward who doesn't have the guts to follow the conclusions of his beliefs, a hypocrite who likes to dream of others being subjected to mayhem and death but won't do anything more than sit on his ass a quarter away across the globe and count his gold while avoiding taxes in a semi-kleptocracy, or a flat out troll who like to see if he can get people angry.

Well, you know what? Fuck you. Again. Endlessly.

You think this guy is some representative of the oppressed innocents and you're framing his murder/suicide spree as a revolutionary act?

GET SOME FUCKING BALLS AND COME BACK AND LIVE BY WHAT YOU BELIEVE, SHITSTAIN

Or maybe just SHUT THE FUCK UP about what is going on in our country and in the cities where some of us live and are trying to help bend history towards justice.

You immense fucking asshole.

[interdictor.livejournal.com]

Let me tell you something, you piece of human filth: the reason I became a Green Beret was precisely because it was exactly my intention to lead the revolution. But toward the mid-90s I realized that the damage was already done by your side and it was too late and no amount of bloodshed would fix anything. Your policies have created permanent and ever-growing unskilled, illiterate, innumerate underclasses for which nothing can be done. You've created the world's largest, most powerful state with thousands of heads, so no matter how many I chopped off, they'd just be replaced and evil pieces of human garbage like you would try to shape the narrative to make me look like the monster. Why would I spill one drop of blood to save people who don't even know that they're the problem? You're goddamned right I moved the fuck away. I can't beat your government, but I sure as fuck won't join them. That left one option. You're fucking right: I left. I am resentful as hell that I had to leave. But the choice came down to that or sacrificing my life for something completely futile. But that doesn't mean I can't incur some small modicum of pleasure from watching people with nothing to lose put the screws to you and yours a little bit, you socialist scumbag. This is YOUR police state and I don't mind seeing some resistance to it. But I'm not shedding blood to oppose it, because it can't be defeated and even if it could, it would just be replaced with something worse. It has to collapse under its own weight, which could be another 2 centuries or more. But I won't be there and neither will my family.

Long story short: I was completely intending to lead the revolution, but scum like you who don't even know you're the problem are not worth a drop of my blood, so I left instead.

Fuck you and may your omnipotent state finally cause you the pain it's caused for so many others.

[farchivist.livejournal.com]

Let me tell you something, you piece of human filth: the reason I became a Green Beret was precisely because it was exactly my intention to lead the revolution

Then you are either an idiot or a liar, because there was never any chance that there would be a revolution. I will state it clearly: there won't be a revolution. It's not going to happen.

I can't beat your government, but I sure as fuck won't join them.

Uh, you already did join them. All that "Green Beret" training you received was only available because the government paid you, a soldier, a civil servant to be a trained killer for them. You were a government employee. So don't say you won't join them, because you already did.

This is YOUR police state and I don't mind seeing some resistance to it.

The USA doesn't even meet the requirements of a police stat, except in the hyperbole that you spew.
And you went to Sicily, part of Italy - and a far more socialist country to escape. Because even in Sicily, they're pretty damn socialist. So don't give me that, troll. Oslo is right. You are "a selfish narcissist who thinks he's found a good cover by talking big about being a disillusioned revolutionary." That's just the plain fucking truth.

[planet-x-zero.livejournal.com]

I can't get past the idea that anyone would be so deluded as to believe being part of the military aparatus would lead to anything approaching an armed revolution, much less leading one.

[madscience.livejournal.com]

You've obviously never been in the military. It's full of people itching for armed revolution... though mostly totalitarian right-wingers, not libertarians.

[planet-x-zero.livejournal.com]

A little late to the party. You've obviously not been to charm school.

To date, armed insurrection in the US military is probably less than five people. I was in the 3rd Armored Division in Gulf I. Nobody said shit about "armed revolution".

[madscience.livejournal.com]

Did you know that people used to carry on conversations via letters carried by sailing ships?

The number of people who have actually attempted it might be small, but in the Marines (the slacker air wing, no less) there was no shortage of people talking about assassinating Bill Clinton, etc. Probably just venting as opposed to actually thinking about it, but they were never shy about suggesting it.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

That's a lot of words to defend your hypocritical shit flinging.

You sit on your ass laughing at people and hoping for us to suffer.  And you try to justify your pussing out on your so called beliefs so you can feel superior while you live where you do mostly to avoid taxes?

You supreme fucking ASS

[oslo.livejournal.com]

You're part of the reason I left -- you and your ilk are ruining the very few decent things about the US. I knew I could never out vote you -- you keep adding more and more unskilled, illiterate, innumerate government dependents on purpose. I had no chance, so of course I got the fuck out. Now I do want to see you suffer for building the largest, most powerful state in the history of the world. And it looks like you are suffering. And so that's awesome.

Yeah, but you went to a place where all of these problems are worse. The self-vindicating narrative you're trying to spin here just doesn't hold up to any kind of scrutiny. If things are any better for you personally or philosophically now, it's just because you've chosen a place where the huge, overbearing government is less competent and more corrupt than it is here.

You should just admit what's true: You're a selfish narcissist who thinks he's found a good cover by talking big about being a disillusioned revolutionary. And that's just fine, in my view - I just hope you're not so self-deluded not to be able to appreciate that fact.

[planet-x-zero.livejournal.com]

This guy was just another Adam Lanza. Nothing heroic about his actions. The murder of his girlfriend is entirely symptomatic of malignant narcissism. Choose your battles correctly, lest you look like you don't understand the deeper issues.

[atlantacharmer2.livejournal.com]

Thank you for mentioning his girlfriend. Everyone seems to have forgotten all about her.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

He shot her in the stomach, didn't he?

Jesus, that's horrible -- he wanted her to suffer...a LOT.

[planet-x-zero.livejournal.com]

fire three bullets at his midsection for maximum visceral agony

Brutal way to go.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

She lived.

[planet-x-zero.livejournal.com]

You're right...I'm not sure why I thought she had died. My fact checking department isn't what it used to be.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Guest on ABC news this AM laid the blame at di Blasio for inciting the killings and demanded an apology.

[madscience.livejournal.com]

The cop defenders will blame anyone except the people who actually provoked this... which is none other than themselves.

[oslo.livejournal.com]

Yeah, this. The Republicans' support message here makes my blood run cold, because it seems to suggest that they actually believe that the police shouldn't be subject to any public criticism by the political representatives elected by the people who see the police's behavior on a day-to-day basis.

If Lynch is worried that de Blasio's statements are poisoning the community's relationship with the police, perhaps he should take a step back and think about how police behavior has already poisoned that relationship, which de Blasio is just giving voice to. Like any petty tyrant, he seems to think that repressing the expression of resentment is the same as making it disappear.

[interdictor.livejournal.com]

2 down, tens of thousands to go.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Fuck dude. Using the tools of the oppressor will only produce like results.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

My condolences to the families.

Think they will acquit the shooter?

[interdictor.livejournal.com]

Isn't he dead?

[hindustar.livejournal.com]

This is sad. I hope all the families with murdered loved ones can find some peace.