[identity profile] cardinalking.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons


It was a documentary on the agricultural industry. I have to do an extra credit project on it to keep my grade in the high nineties.

I never saw such deplorable conditions for workers, immigrants, and farmers; nor have I seen how bad they get treated by big business. I'm not one to harp for animal rights, but what I saw in those chicken plants and slaughterhouses was horrible. I'd no idea how dangerous it was.

And big agricultural businesses make a KILLING off of contracted-out individual farmers who are getting screwed.

I'm not sure I can be a laizzes-faire capitalist anymore. What's worse is there're libel laws that say you can't talk bad about big beef, big cattle, or big agriculture. I saw they even sued Oprah!

It makes me want to become a progressive.

Date: 2014-12-09 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Nah...you'll get over the shock of the real.

It's just like GTA. But with more smells.

Date: 2014-12-09 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
If you ever get a chance to see that HBO movie on Temple Grandin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin), it's well worth your time. She was diagnosed with autism at age two but was eventually able to get a Ph. D. in animal science, and worked for compassionate treatment of cattle at slaughterhouses. And designed new stockyards to promote that idea. It worked because it just made good business sense to do it.

Date: 2014-12-09 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshthevegan.livejournal.com




The animal agriculture industry is absolutely disgusting and is destroying the planet.

Date: 2014-12-09 11:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-12-09 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
You can be a conservative and still be for animals rights and against CAFO, however nothing like being informed. I stopped eating all fast food and most meat.

Date: 2014-12-10 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
It makes me want to become a progressive.

Exposure to facts does that. They are known for having a progressive bias.

Date: 2014-12-10 03:59 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-12-10 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grok-mctanys.livejournal.com
But remember, in many states, if you video the horrible farming conditions which animals are kept in, you are the terrorist and will be the one who is prosecuted (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/us/taping-of-farm-cruelty-is-becoming-the-crime.html?pagewanted%3Dall). Because capitalism! Or something...

Date: 2014-12-10 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
Food independence is an ideal that cuts across all political lines. Not only does home-grown food taste better and help you avoid weird stuff, but it pisses off the banksters that there's one less way they can control you.

Date: 2014-12-10 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Isn't that icon from American Psycho?

Date: 2014-12-11 05:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-12-10 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mudryikot.livejournal.com
Is the "choosemyfeed.gov" supposed to be a parody on some actually existing webpage?

Date: 2014-12-11 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/

"My Plate" is the new food pyramid. Change for change's sake.

Date: 2014-12-11 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mudryikot.livejournal.com
Thank you :)
Had a look on the site - somehow the authors assume that the audience is a bunch of complete morons who would burn water in a pan. On the other hand such is the general assumption of governments nowadays.
Also for some reason "choose your drinks" section does not contain any info on choosing wines to go with your foods. :)

And BTW - I know that religious nuts in US swear and curse when sex education is brough up - do they provide equally good rant when they see seafood recommended by a governmental agency?

Date: 2014-12-11 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
IIRC, that was actually the stated reason for replacing the familiar food pyramid with My Plate. Americans are apparently too stupid to understand the food pyramid.

The US has plenty of food-related crackpot religions. Vegans, of course. Most anti-GMO people are anti-GMO for wrong, unscientific reasons. And God forbid our school cafeterias stop serving processed junk food.

Date: 2014-12-11 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mudryikot.livejournal.com
I actually meant nuts from more "traditional" religions, like Christians and Jews complaining about foods proscribed in Old Testament (like prawns or mussels or hare), or Muslims about pork etc.

Date: 2014-12-11 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
There's that, too. There are Muslims demanding that fast food chains stop serving pork like they have in some other countries, and Christians blaming it on Obama and getting bent out of shape that righteous Christian capitalism would give an inch to a false religion like Islam anywhere in the world.
Edited Date: 2014-12-11 10:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-12-14 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mudryikot.livejournal.com
9. These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10. And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
Leviticus 11

Date: 2014-12-11 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
What was the name of this video, if I may ask?

Date: 2014-12-14 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Ah, yes. I've seen it. I especially like Joel Salatin's contributions. More of Joel here (http://peristaltor.livejournal.com/165838.html), if you have the time.

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