Date: 2014-09-21 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedabara-cds.livejournal.com
*gigglesnort* Now I love Jimmy Carr even more!!

Date: 2014-09-21 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com
I always get him and Alan Carr mixed up.

Date: 2014-09-22 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
The one thing I hate about Jimmy Carr is his laugh. Otherwise he is hilarious.

Date: 2014-09-21 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
Pretty cold.

Those very mysterious ways of God!

Date: 2014-09-21 04:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-21 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com
United Kingdom: Going there since 1559

Date: 2014-09-21 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
More need to simply turn the whole God thing around and ask questions like these. There is nothing more challenging to a myth that derisive laughter.

Date: 2014-09-21 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
Sadly, most hard core believers will believe that god allowed the shooting to teach him strength or some such crap.

Date: 2014-09-21 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zanganito.livejournal.com
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger?

Date: 2014-09-21 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chron-job.livejournal.com
Nietzsche must have never heard about maiming.

Date: 2014-09-21 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
Or maybe it was just a warning. A little scare to shape him up. ;)

Date: 2014-09-21 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshaz.livejournal.com
You don't have to be an atheist to find it annoying when someone attributes EVERY SINGLE POSITIVE THING that happens to them to their deity's DIRECT PERSONAL ACTION. I'm not an atheist, but I guess I'm more of a deist than a theist in some respects, because I simply find it impossible to believe that the Creator of the Universe is interested in micromanaging the lives of billions and billions of human beings in the manner some religious persons seem to assume.

The whole "I recovered from an illness/injury because of prayer" thing bugs me most of all, because it implies that God (or whatever you want to call It) is sitting somewhere with a Divine Scorecard, deciding who lives or dies based on the quantity and/or quality of the prayers said by and/or for them. Sorry, no. That DOE.S. NOT. MAKE. SENSE. TO. ME.

I digress. The point I wanted to make is that atheists are NOT the only people who find the sort of thing depicted in this macro to be fallacious and illogical.

Oh, and that look on his face at the end? PRICELESS.

Date: 2014-09-22 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jom-art.livejournal.com
powerful shit. thanks!

Date: 2014-09-23 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshaz.livejournal.com
True that!

Another thing that those kinds of defects prove is that intelligent design is a crock of crap. There's nothing "intelligent" about those or a whole host of other things it would take me all night to list.

Hell, the female urinary track alone is the most powerful argument against intelligent design that I can think of! Not that the male one is anything to cheer about. Somehow I don't see an intelligent designer saying to himself, "Hum, why don't I take this prostate gland thing and wrap it around the guy's urethra...and then make it VERY prone to swell up as he ages. Yeah, that'll work!"

Date: 2014-09-21 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I digress. The point I wanted to make is that atheists are NOT the only people who find the sort of thing depicted in this macro to be fallacious and illogical.

I liked Rabbi Harold Kusher's book Why bad things happen to good people. (http://www.amazon.com/When-Things-Happen-Good-People/dp/1400034728/ref=la_B000APIOYE_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411337369&sr=1-1)"Written following the death of his son, Aaron, from the premature aging disease progeria, the book deals with questions about human suffering, God, omnipotence and theodicy. Aaron was born in 1963 and died in 1977; the book was published in 1981."

Date: 2014-09-22 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
But did the author make good arguments?

Date: 2014-09-22 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
That's your call.

Date: 2014-09-23 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshaz.livejournal.com
I read that a long time ago, and I agree that it's really excellent.

As I recall, the basic idea was, "Sometimes shit happens. When shit does happen, it's not because you're being punished for something. And when shit doesn't happen, it's not because you're being rewarded."

Date: 2014-09-21 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eawen-penallion.livejournal.com
It reminds me of a woman who was interviewed in the destructive aftermath of a tornado. She was asked if her faith in God helped her through the situation. The look on the interviewer's face when the woman said that she was an atheist was priceless!

Date: 2014-09-23 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
It's sad she felt it necessary to tack on the bit about "I don't blame anyone for 'thanking the lord'." Good job interviewer for pushing her to give you the quote you wanted.

I hate the 24/7/365 media so much.

Date: 2014-09-22 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
I remember debating a real nice Southern Baptist lady who insisted that God destroys nations that turn their backs on Him. I replied that when China and South Yemen are destroyed I'll start worrying.

She stopped replying to me after that.

Date: 2014-09-23 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshaz.livejournal.com
EXCELLENT reply!

Date: 2014-09-22 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
I love Jimmy Carr :)

Date: 2014-09-22 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hindustar.livejournal.com
I have a friend on facebook who literally blames their diabetes and heart disease on the devil. I don't even argue with them, it just isn't worth me banging my head against the wall.

Date: 2014-09-23 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshaz.livejournal.com
I'd like to introduce your friend to the people who told my sister that taking meds for her bipolar disorder was wrong because it demonstrated that she didn't have enough faith in God to heal her. According to them, all she really needed to do was pray and "have faith." *FACEPALM* Unfortunately, she tried following that advice for a while, and you can imagine how well it worked! I'm happy to say she learned her lesson quickly and now regrets ever listening to those fuckwits.
Edited Date: 2014-09-23 01:02 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-23 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hindustar.livejournal.com
I am so sorry that happened to her. I am glad she was able to recover. I think my friend would feel at home with those guys.

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