National Review: Neil de Grasse Tyson cover

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Why am I not surprised by the cover, or the unflattering editorial?

Tyson's own reaction on Bill Maher's program, Friday night.

Comments

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

I'm not attacking you, nor am I whining.

It was an honest attempt to get you to look outside yourself, and to maybe consider your condescending attitude, to reconsider what is going on here.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I'm not attacking you, nor am I whining.

You've done both.

It was an honest attempt to get you to look outside yourself, and to maybe consider your condescending attitude, to reconsider what is going on here.

It's not condescending to complement people by saying they are better thinkers than what is being assumed. If you're concerned about me being condescending, don't be so crass as to be condescending to me in order to make your point.

Is this you not addressing any more of the meat of this? If so, very well.

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

What more do I need to say? Nothing will persuade you,
and nobody else here needs persuading.

Don't you see? Everyone but you sees it.
Are you sure the problem is with us?

Are you still complimenting us when you say we are all wrong
and you are the only one with the true vision?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Don't you see? Everyone but you sees it.
Are you sure the problem is with us?

Yes. 100% so.

Are you still complimenting us when you say we are all wrong
and you are the only one with the true vision?

This is why I don't think you're paying attention half the time.

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

I'm paying attention to what matters.
You are playing some other game.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Please, pay attention to what matters. It will stop the confusion about what I believe and what I say more often.

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

We're not confused.

Oh, it's true, for instance, that I am not entirely sure what your interest is. I mean, I couldn't do what you do: go into a Red State forum and try to argue how everyone there is wrong as I tell them my truths and take the shower of unrelenting criticism, even abuse. But other than that - and it doesn't really matter why anyone is here (and you do bring something, by the way you do expose me to some things I'd probably miss or overlook, such as Gore's being rather gung-ho about Iraq) - I don't think anyone is really confused. We just don't agree with you.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I mean, I couldn't do what you do: go into a Red State forum and try to argue how everyone there is wrong as I tell them my truths and take the shower of unrelenting criticism, even abuse.

What on earth is this "Red State forum" thing you keep talking about?

I don't think anyone is really confused. We just don't agree with you.

I am fine with disagreement, I welcome it. The disagreement isn't the problem. It's why I'm here, after all - it's good to hear the other side. I don't like echo chambers.