Robert Ariail, The State

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[megiloth.livejournal.com]

Anything like President Clinton replacing conservative leaning Byron White with leftist ACLU croney, Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg?? Justice White being one of the dissenting views on Roe vs Wade, being replaced with a pro-abortion Justice?? No nuclear Constitutional option required. Clinton got his "extremist" buddy on SCOTUS, so why not Bush??

btw, Supreme Court Justices aren't elected :)

[nallyo.livejournal.com]

Have you ever heard of a little group known as moveon.org?

[goumindong.livejournal.com]

the man is right. The only groups that are making a fuss are right wing conservative groups.

[nallyo.livejournal.com]

OK. Sorry, I didn't notice the part at the end (ie).

[mid-limbo.livejournal.com]

its true, but the sad part is that its justified.

[chrisfrap.livejournal.com]

good start :D

[rosguil.livejournal.com]

it's called a pre-emptive strike. what goes around...

[beretta.livejournal.com]

It's called predictability, which is a frequent tactic of the democrats these days, which is why they lose. Their opponents can anticipate their every move.

If the democrats want to do better than they are, they need to focus on changing their tactics and not just being divisive all the time.

[rosguil.livejournal.com]

predictability; that's why i like that they've already said they'll oppose any extremist nominations, because i (along with many of my liberal friends) had expected them to just bend over and take it.
divisiveness is a two way street; as conservatives get more conservative, are liberals expected to lean right with them for the sake of unity? our positions on the issues and how to handle them hasn't really changed, so if there is divisiveness, it is just as much (if not more) the fault of the conservatives for leaning so far.

[beretta.livejournal.com]

The problem with the dedicated democrats are so far left leaning now that ask them to move an inch is an atrocious violation, but they some how expect the republicans to meet them in the middle when they refuse to come to the middle.

Unity takes sacrifice and compromise on both sides, so yes liberals should anticipate to accept a judge that has some leanings on both sides of the fence. Because the fact is Bush has been talking and listening to the democrats closely and they are happy with the progress so far, even Liberman has had good things to say about Bush lately.

So in my opinion all this paranoia and chicken little behavior is going to really end being a pointless endeavor. But I get the feeling no matter how moderate a judge he appoints, maybe even liberal the one tracked mind crowd will never fully accept it.

[rosguil.livejournal.com]

the desire to maintain civil liberty isn't really an extreme one. to accept, never mind embrace, any infringement is a violation of a moral code. so yes, we may be obstinate, but if a newly appointed judge helps overturn Roe v Wade or make illegal homosexual marriage (if not homsexual acts in general) then the land of the free will morph into a totalitarian theocratic state. and it is the conservative journey away from the center that necessitates this thought and the actions and statements that come from it.
Unity takes sacrifice and compromise from both sides; very well put. What will conservatives sacrifice? How will they compromise? Bush continues to condescend to anyone who disagrees with him (getting Lieberman's approval means nothing; is a conservative in liberal clothing, claiming to be a Dem solely to comfort us Jews.) The only criticism of a potential nominee i've heard is of Alberto Gonzales by conservatives because he, heaven forbid, backed exceptions to a state law requiring teenagers to notify a parent before getting an abortion (usatoday.com). That doesn't sound like compromise or sacrifice.
Paranoia and chicken little behaviour isn't entirely monopolized by liberals either. going after a random member of the axis of evil without properly finishing the job in the previous location seems like conservatives are trying to stop the sky from falling. the fluctuating reasons for the war in iraq smack of paranoia.
just as iraq was a pre-emptive strike in case of wmds, kennedy's message was a pre-emptive strike in case Bush appoints an ultra-conservative. if we can't center together (and it sadly seems like an impossibility) at least we can balance out.

[beretta.livejournal.com]

Do you really think the liberal judges care all that much about your rights? Take the recent eminent domain decision, it was praised by the liberal core as a victory. I don't see how taking private property for some private developer is a victory. People are going to lose their homes that they worked hard for because someone wants to put in a wal-mart or apartment complex.

Homosexual marriage is technically already illegal under federal law, refer to Clinton's 1996 defense of marriage act. Yes, I said Clinton. The liberals poster boy.

I'm not going to argue my opinions on issues right now, because it would be pointless. But my observation of things right now tell me that it is most democrats and especially the liberal ones are the most stubborn and least likely to go across the aisle or meet in the middle. They have essentially closed their eyes and ears to all opinions but their own.

[goumindong.livejournal.com]

Who was this "liberal core" all i heard was everyone that wasnt on the court saying "What the fucking hell were you thinking?"

IRT: DOMA, i was under the impression that DOMA let states ignore homosexual marriages performed in another state, similar to the federal divorce laws we have.

[sqlnerd.livejournal.com]

The domain decision was *NOT* praised by the liberal core as victory. I did not see one liberal motherfucker praise that. As a matter of fact, I havent seen ANYONE praise that decision...other than corporations, of course.


Clinton can suck a dildo for signing DOMA.

[megiloth.livejournal.com]

but if a newly appointed judge helps overturn Roe v Wade or make illegal homosexual marriage...then the land of the free will morph into a totalitarian theocratic state

Actually, if RVW is overturned, then the issue is left with the states to decide if you can take the life of a baby or not. And gay marriage isn't legal to begin with, so how can we make more illegaler??

[sqlnerd.livejournal.com]

The issue isnt left to the states. if RvW is overturned, the Federal Government can AND will make it illegal and override states. See Medical Marijuana.

[goumindong.livejournal.com]

The democrats arent "left leaning", there are a few, but all in all, they are slightly right of middle.

A Premature Attack

[java-drinker.livejournal.com]

http://www.factcheck.org/article333.html

Pro-Bush group's ad faults Democrats for criticisms they haven't yet made, about a Supreme Court nominee who hasn't been named, to a vacancy that doesn't yet exist.



http://www.factcheck.org/article335.html
Groups launch new ads only hours after Supreme Court vacancy announced. Each side portrays the other as extreme, even before a nominee is named.

Re: A Premature Attack

[sqlnerd.livejournal.com]

oh hey! he nominated someone that defended Operation Rescue. No extremism there! Thank god he didnt have a litmus test!

[sqlnerd.livejournal.com]

Hey look! That motherfucker nominated someone who supports OPERATION RESCUE.

And people thought we were just attacking preemptively. See, in this case, unlike Bush's preemptive attack on Iraq, we were actually right.