One more step closer to The Handmaid's Tale.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

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[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Why do you think female employees should have fewer rights than male employees?
No, I think women should have more rights then men, we deserve it, in general.
I don't think female employee should have less rights at all. My whole point was that the issue we talking about is not about rights, but about individual contract. If we consider free contraception a right, then we have to consider all other material goods as right too. What is more important that or food? How about shelter? Who deserves more sympathy - a woman with a job who has to pay for her own contraception or a homeless person in NYC in February? Doesn't he have a right for a roof? This is a reason I call it a phony issue. You see how far we can go.
In my humble opinion, this is exactly the reason left pushes not important issues like free contraception. They are testing the ground with little issues that most don't care. I see people saying - let them have it. Then, the next step, and another little one - forward towards socialism. Does it make any sense to you?

by blocking birth control Hobby Lobby will be paying more directly
If they want to pay more, fine. Who I am to tell them pay more or less? If their business decision isn't so good, they will pay for it. I am for freedom.

I like to think I have higher standards than that.
Do you mean my standards are lower then yours? Maybe, but my standards are realistic.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

If we consider free contraception...

It's not free, the person is working a job for it.


Doesn't he have a right for a roof?

Yes, Article 25. (http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml#a25)


...this is exactly the reason left pushes not important issues...

This issue was pushed by the right by being anti-woman.


Who I am to tell them pay more or less?

Then why do you live in a country of laws?

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

It's not free, the person is working a job for it.
But, as we discussed the person can't set her own compensation. It is an agreement, so both sides have to agree.

Yes, Article 25.
Does it mean that if he can't afford it, somebody has to provide it for him?

Nothing is more anti-woman, then pro-abortion.

I want to live in country of laws, not country of group pressures.
Are you just having fun by teasing me?

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

It is an agreement, so both sides have to agree.

Sure. Should it be allowed to pay women less because they are women?


Nothing is more anti-woman, then pro-abortion.

How do you figure?


I want to live in country of laws, not country of group pressures.

Why is Hobby Lobby allowed to skirt the law and apply pressure to a marginalized group?

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Should it be allowed to pay women less because they are women?
Women aren't paid less, men don't get free contraception either. The main thing is that they pay whatever they want and nobody is obligated to take the offer. I think people rather have higher wages then something free they might don't even want.

Nothing is more anti-woman, then pro-abortion.
Everybody with a little life experience knows that. Have you ever heard about "maternal instinct"? Did you read "American Tragedy". Men are a lot more interested in abortion then women.

Who are referring as a marginalized group? What law are you talking about? Is it the one that government already broke like 100 times?

We should be talking about corruption, not silly topics like this. But if we do fight each other, then we won't have time for serious things. Isn't it convenient for some?