Krugman being Krugman

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

"There's the great line, of course, about how his "lived experience" (see? I told you, he's doing empirical work!) confirms that motivated cognition "is not, in fact, symmetric between liberals and conservatives.

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That Krugman is too thick to see that one can't infer anything about the quality of partisans' reasoning from the truth or falsity of their beliefs is ... another element of Krugman's proof that ideological reasoning is symmetric across right and left!"

Comments

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

Krugman has a great point there, thanks for bringing it up. Can you point to a liberal equivalent of conservative denial of climate change, or the “unskewing” mania late in the 2012 campaign, or the frantic efforts to deny that Obamacare is in fact covering a lot of previously uninsured Americans?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Genetically modified foods, vaccination, the actual skewing mania of one of the chief liberal pollsters (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114682/ppp-polling-methodology-opaque-flawed), the frantic efforts to claim that the ACA is covering a lot of previously uninsured Americans.

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

I guess I should have thought better than asking someone in the throes of conservative denialism about the extent of conservative denialism. XD

[moonshaz.livejournal.com]

LOLOL!

[red-pill.livejournal.com]

in fairness, i wont talk to the others, but GM food activisim is defently a preserve of the left. it isnt a cause thats often taken up by legislators, and if you want to talk about mainstreaming off issues that people are off on then the republicans have that sown up, BUT, GM food protests are a thing that is left wing. i dont know about vaccines so much, although i find people who are anti vax frustrating and foolish and a little bit dangrues....

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

However it isn't a mainstream movement of the democrats. You won't see it as part of a presidential candidates platform.

[red-pill.livejournal.com]

sorry, i hoped to make that clear when i spoke of it not being taken up by legislators.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I'll be surprised if it's not on some Democratic Senate/House race issue platforms this year, and outright shocked if at least one Democratic candidate isn't peddling this claptrap in 2016.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

So more people didn't get Medicaid and Medicare coverage after the ACA expanded their scopes?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Not nearly as many as are being cited.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

...the frantic efforts to claim that the ACA is covering a lot of previously uninsured Americans.

"not nearly as many" wasn't what you said.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Indeed. It's not covering a lot of previously uninsured Americans in part because there weren't many to start. Not nearly as many as cited.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

How many were there?

[peristaltor.livejournal.com]

Vaccination? Can you show any evidence that anti-vaxxers are more prevalent in the left-leaning political camp than the right? I'm unaware of any.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/04/20/vaccine-denial-and-the-left/

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Burton

Burton has said he believes one of his grandchildren became autistic after receiving a childhood vaccination. As a result, he spent many years and lots of congressional resources trying to investigate the alleged link between the two. In 2000, he held a circus-like hearing in which he provided a very high profile platform for the now entirely disgraced British doctor Andrew Wakefield, who helped spawn the myth that vaccines cause autism. Wakefield has since lost his medical license for allegedly falsifying the medical histories of the children he claimed had gotten autism from vaccines, among other issues.

As Wakefield's now-discredited, fabricated data started to raise questions in the medical community, Burton defended him, saying in 2002: "Dr. Wakefield, like many scientists who blaze new trails, has been attacked by his own profession. He has been forced out of his position at Royal Free Hospital in England." In 2007, Burton argued that autistic children should be eligible to receive compensation from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, even though there was no evidence of any link between vaccines and autism.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/rep-dan-burton-goodbye-and-good-riddance

[oslo.livejournal.com]

So - did you intend for this just to help peristaltor see how little evidence there is for your assertion, or did you fail to read this piece past its headline?

[peristaltor.livejournal.com]

Yeah, like Oslo notes, you might want to read that link yourself.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I'm familiar with it, even if he isn't.

[usekh.livejournal.com]

It basically says it is not really a left-right issue. Did you mean to use that link?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Only if you see the hippy element as split. Seeing as the piece refutes the protest that it's not held back to the left...

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

I know you are but what am I?

[telemann.livejournal.com]

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

[madscience.livejournal.com]

". . . the frantic efforts to claim that the ACA is covering a lot of previously uninsured Americans."

Hey, 2 million is a lot, right? Only 45 million to go!