Date: 2014-02-18 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
LOL Well, driving is tricky. That's why we prefer horses.

Date: 2014-02-18 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
As a west coaster, I will not laugh at them. 1 inch would shut us down hard.

Date: 2014-02-19 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
In Tucson all it takes is a little rain.

Date: 2014-02-20 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
I can't tell the difference, but maybe that's just because people drive so badly all the time.

Date: 2014-02-19 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Racists Attack African-American Icon Statue with Rope Noose, Confederate Flag on Ole Miss Campus (http://progressivepopulist.org/2014/02/17/racists-attack-african-american-icon-statue-rope-noose-confederate-flag-ole-miss-campus-videos/)
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Meanwhile, at Master Race heaquarters...

Date: 2014-02-19 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
Now, now, now...nobody can prove their INTENT, right? Maybe they just wanted to put up a hammock and didn't KNOW who the statue was. You cannot possibly expect EVERYONE knows who James Meredith was and this is probably just a misunderstanding on that basis.

Of course, it was terribly awkward, but you cannot prove it was racist. Lord knows, I just CHERISH black people...

Date: 2014-02-19 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
10/10 Terrifying, would read again.

Date: 2014-02-19 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Plus who did they really hurt here. Its just rope.

Date: 2014-02-19 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
IT WAS ICE FOR GAWDS SAKE

Snow is nothing to us. What matters is that snow always melts quickly AND THEN FREEZES INTO BLACK ICE

FUCK y'all who keep this bullshit going



Do we make fun of Northerners who have heatwaves? NO
STFU

Date: 2014-02-19 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
Black ice is an every day thing here in Kansas in the winter. If we get any precip in winter, we get black ice.

Date: 2014-02-19 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wind-shadow2008.livejournal.com
Snow/ice/black ice/homicidal road slush every winter, followed closely by heat waves in the summer.....living in New England is fun.

Date: 2014-02-19 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
I'm upstate NY. We have icing conditions most of the winter too. In fact, today we're having a rain/snow/icing event all day. It's just lovely out there.

We watch weather reports and stay off the road when driving will be hazardous. Schools announce closure the night before and most businesses operate on a skeletal structure with essential staffing. It's common sense.

I see southerners making fun of northerners in heat waves - Especially folks from Texas. And that's fine. They put up with some damn hot weather.

Date: 2014-02-20 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
that's Texans. They freely admit they are asinine to everyone else (especially Northerners) they are not known for politeness and manners. We only include them as "southern" because they'd come shoot us and/or not sell us beef. Either of which would kind of suck.

The difference here is that y'all have ice and snow storms on a predictable regular basis and therefore have things like snow plows, salt-trucks and the like. We dont have any of that going on.

Date: 2014-02-20 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
we also (being a red state with lots of teabag nonsense) have a bad infrastructure problem - many public buildings will literally break if the HVAC system has to strain against subzero temps for more than a few hours. We learned that the hard way.

Date: 2014-02-20 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
But it IS totally predictable. Did you not have weather reports saying that there would be snow and ice? Generally they're fairly accurate.

Our plows and salt-trucks clear main roads and emergency routes during major weather events. The side streets and minor roads, not so much. So, people who live in the boonies stay home, the people who live closer to the main roads and emergency routes are the skeleton crews that get to work.

You folks know you aren't equipped for snow and ice, so why did you go out in it? Why wasn't school cancelled the night before? Why did businesses open as usual?

Southern manners scare me. My ears hear Well, bless your heart; my brain hears, Well, fuck you, honeybunch.

I prefer people from the northeast who just tell you to fuck off straight to your face. You always know where you stand with Northerners.
Edited Date: 2014-02-20 02:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-20 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS

Much better than sitting there snickering at regular goddamned folk who were NOT told to stay home and were NOT told that schools would close. Did it ever occur to you that the answer is something besides "because they are dumbasses"?

"Bless your heart" has many meanings, some of which are nice and some of which aren't. If you heard the not nice meaning, well sorry. Guess you pissed someone off.

Date: 2014-02-20 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
and yeah Northerners will tell you to fuck off to your face, rather than suck up some slight and keep doing business. Y'all have enough people I suppose you can stand to piss each other off regularly. We prefer to make an effort to keep moving off. The Southern version of "fuck you" is a version that says "Id like to not get into a fistfight"

Apparently a problem Northerners dont mind creating.

Date: 2014-02-20 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
Most people in the Northeast don't get into fist fights over "fuck you". We just roll our eyes and send one back. I can get into exchanges with people and not be angry with them. OTOH, I absolutely hate it when people try to play head games with me coating things with saccharine. It strikes me as dishonest and untrustworthy.

Those are good questions to put to your local officials. But more than that, regular folks should be asking themselves why they kept their local businesses open, why they sent their kids to school and day care, etc. I understand the answer is going to be "Because they didn't have a choice." Sure, some people didn't. Totally understand that. But, the problems would have been far smaller and much more manageable if people who could have stayed home did so. Those weather reports are for everyone.

Date: 2014-02-19 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshthevegan.livejournal.com
My sympathy for the south with their inch or two of snow here and there doesn't exist. We've had nearly 60 inches of snow this season. And that's not counting the freezing rain, ice, and other nasties that the sky has dumped on us. When I see the pictures of the "treacherous conditions" they've had to deal with, I can't help but laugh at them.

Just another reason the northeast is the best part of the country.

ETA: Also, never forget the influence Snow can have on a culture.

Edited Date: 2014-02-19 11:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-19 02:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-19 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Thanks for choosing Monday Morning over Informer, it's the superior song.

Date: 2014-02-20 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshthevegan.livejournal.com
I definitely agree. I think it's a shame that history has all but swallowed all memory of this song in favor of the less-awesome pop hit.

Date: 2014-02-21 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
I play it for people sometimes (it's a good chill song) and I'm often asked who it is and they can't believe it's the informer guy. Snow was not Vanilla Ice :P

Date: 2014-02-20 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
thats because you;re fooled into beliving this bullshit. As noted above, its not anything to do with SNOW, its to do with ICE and being told in the middle of the day while you are at work "oh by the way come and get your kids, we're kicking them out of the school RIGHT NOW"

Oh SORRY WE HAVE TRAFFIC ISSUES ESPECIALLY WHEN ICE TAKES OVER IN LESS THAN A FUCKING HOUR AND WE HAVE NO SALT TRUCKS OR SNOW PLOWS

Geeziz are all northerners this ignorant?

Date: 2014-02-20 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshthevegan.livejournal.com
1) I was totally joking. I know how weather that your area is not prepared for hitting you can be rather un-fun. If it hits 95 degrees around here everyone (myself included) starts acting like they are melting.

2) We got a lot of ice this winter too (as I mentioned). In fact, about two weeks ago we had an ice storm that dumped about 4 inches of the awful stuff on us overnight. My work didn't even close. Now, granted, I used a sick day that day, but my work still expected me to report in spite of the ice storm. Salt trucks don't really do anything for ice storms, either. They can lay salt before it's down, but putting it on top is an act in futility and most townships know this and don't do it.

Speaking of don't do it, when you have a winter with weather as heavy and frequent as we have, many cities / townships start to run out of money on their snow removal budgets. And when that starts happening, they simply stop doing anything about it. We got 3-4" sometime last week and I didn't see a single plow. Getting to work that day was miserable.

What I'm getting at here is that I totally understand the pains of snow and ice and I tease because it's a shared experience, not because I am trying to be a dick.

Date: 2014-02-20 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
I stayed home and helped with the online efforts of getting people stranded connected with people willing to put strangers up in their homes. I had friends freaking out becuase their loved ones hadnt shown up at home after 10 hours. I read about the lady giving birth literally in a car on an iced-out highway.

Then for the next FUCKING MONTH I get to see constant snarks about how "ooo southerners can't handle a little snow"

SO PARDON ME for being fucking sensitive

Date: 2014-02-20 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelcerv25.livejournal.com
These areas aren't supposed to get snow and ice. Only recently have they. Climate change is real. Soon southern areas will need to seriously consider winter emergency management protocols. Up here in the Northwest it goes without saying, and we don't shut down anything even if two feet of snow fall on us. That's just what we're used to. The south will be learning much to come, whether they do it the hard way or the easy way remains to be seen.

Date: 2014-02-20 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
and I spent a decade up north (Philly, jersey and NYC)

Its really awesome how at the slightest pretense of harsh conditions the city breaks out with all the proper equipment while your still asleep so you wake up to perfectly passable roads on 90% of your route. What fun!

Yeah, not what happens here when our once-every-hundred-years storm hits int he middle of the day, nobody told us it was coming and we have no machines to take care of anything.

Y'all dont deal with THAT scenario so you are talking out of your ass

Date: 2014-02-20 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
I was driving from Athens to Atlanta the Tuesday of the big storm to get to GSU, and I started hearing reports of people abandoning their cars on the interstates, and I was like "fuck that noise," turned around in Loganville and made it back home before it got too bad. I couldn't leave my neighborhood until Friday, and barely even then, with all the ice and no chance of a salt spreader or snow plow in sight. The last big snow storm was in 2010, but it was over the weekend and people were not stuck on the roads, just like how it was last week: yeah the city was shut down for three days, but people were prepared and it wasn't as bad.

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