Date: 2013-12-24 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
I'm thinking that only passing about 70 laws has to be a good thing.
With the minutia of the hundreds of laws passed every session in California, one breaks laws merely by existing.

Date: 2013-12-24 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
Not passing an extension for unemployment benefits was kind of harsh, though.

Date: 2013-12-24 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Strangely enough I agree with you, even tho I am philosophically against another extension.

Date: 2013-12-24 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
There is something particularly tacky about dropping the benefit on Christmas;
they could at least wait until January. But I guess it shows a really strong stand
on principle, as they will not be badgered by sentiment.

Date: 2013-12-25 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
Or, you know, actual need

Date: 2013-12-24 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Honestly you haven't thought it through. I realize there's a fair segment of people who think everything the federal government does is bad and hence, gridlock saves us from more but this is a country, not a loose federation of 50 fiefdoms.

There are issues that affect all of us and a locked-down government does nothing but degrade our economic power.

Date: 2013-12-24 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
The young earth creationist didn't think something through? Impossible!

Date: 2013-12-24 11:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-24 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Actually, my thoughts were along the lines of he governs best who governs least. (there is a great Will Rogers quote in there I can't remember).

It has nothing to do with everything the fed gov't doing is bad, sheesh, you know I'm not a libertarian.

"There are issues that affect all of us and a locked-down government does nothing but degrade our economic power."
What Laws were not passed that caused our economic power to be degraded. (other than not extending unemployment bennies, which could be debatable, but I am willing to give you).

Date: 2013-12-24 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Glad to see you are against, in principle, the idea of immigration laws.

Nobody is illegal, and existence, should not make one a criminal.

Date: 2013-12-24 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Says the young earth creationist....

Date: 2013-12-25 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
Existing on the wrong side of an arbitrarily-drawn geopolitical boundary sure can. Especially if said person chooses to willingly go to the wrong side of said line without following the proper channels.

That is kind of how immigration laws work.

Date: 2013-12-25 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com
I'm thinking that only passing about 70 laws has to be a good thing.

Are you taking into consideration all of the laws that Congress could have fixed or repealed, if it were functioning properly?

Date: 2013-12-25 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Probably not, but on the "lighter" side, a law doesn't have to be fixed or repealed if it isn't passed in the first place ;)

Date: 2013-12-25 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com
Well, look - the Republicans in Congress were elected on a platform to do something about growing and expensive government. The only thing that they've managed to accomplish has been to ensure that existing laws are inadequately implemented due to underfunding, are run by an increasingly hermetic and power-grabbing White House, and impose mandates upon the marketplace whose scope is unclear and whose enforcement. Their only "success" on the budget from came from the "sequester," a broad and unprincipled reduction of discretionary spending that leaves entirely unaddressed the long-term systemic budgetary problems that they were elected to fix while at the same time imposing shocking the economy at precisely the same time it is struggling to create jobs. After electing a class of representatives and senators who were supposed to shake up the Washington establishment, we now have Republicans in Congress that are even more highly focussed on keeping their jobs (or on obtaining "promotions") than the previous establishment politicians were.

It is simply wrong to think that "doing nothing" is a means toward accomplishing your policy preferences in the current environment in Washington. "Doing nothing" has simply ensured that bad law continues to be bad law, that bad budgets continue to be bad budgets, and that an establishment whose agenda had previously been driven by special interests and machine politics is now wholly preoccupied by its own self-perpetuation. You and your compatriots could have elected competent politicians who could look at a beast like Obamacare and find bipartisan solutions to specific, identifiable problems with that legislation, but instead you and your compatriots have elected politicians who only know how to make pie-in-the-sky demands from which they will not budge, while they focus their energies on fundraising and publicity. How that better serves your interests - assuming, I suppose, that bad governance has not been your goal all along - I don't understand.

Date: 2013-12-25 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com
God, that was really poorly edited. *sigh*

Date: 2014-01-08 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
I appreciate your intensity (and even agree in principle), but I feel it is a bit misdirected toward my comments; which was more aimed at for example, California passing it's typical 800 laws a year.

(I realize this is old, but I took a few days off lj and found it to be so relaxing, it was a chore to start commenting again :D)

Date: 2013-12-24 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshthevegan.livejournal.com
Now, that's not totally fair.

They gave us a perfectly good government shutdown for no discernible reason.

Date: 2013-12-24 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
And it's not like they didn't try again and again
to pass some fresh, brand new abortion restrictions.

Date: 2013-12-24 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
and defund the Affordable Care Act!

Date: 2013-12-24 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
That must be the ribbon!

Date: 2013-12-25 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Perfect time for the free market to step in!

*crickets*

Date: 2013-12-25 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
I think the "crickets" is because there is no free market ;)

Date: 2013-12-25 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
There never will be, the second you don't have a government to regulate a market you have cartels.

Date: 2013-12-27 05:08 pm (UTC)

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