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[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

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[torylltales.livejournal.com]

Because black people being given the same* rights as white people is an act of terrorism?


* to a given value

[chron-job.livejournal.com]

> in the confederacy, the army was integrated.

Very provocative statement. And, historically, utterly, staggeringly, flagrantly untrue.

The majority of black who served in the confederacy did so as servants and orderlies, often pressed, or accompanying their masters. The only two fighting regiments (raised in the last days when things were truly desperate) were captured days after being mustered, when Richmond was captured.

You cannot make soldiers of slaves, or slaves of soldiers. The day you make a soldier of them is the beginning of the end of the Revolution. And if slaves seem good soldiers, then our whole theory of slavery is wrong.

- Howell Cobb, President of the Provisional Confederate Congress, and Confederate major general, speaking in opposition to General Lee's request to arm the slaves. The bill allowing slaves to be armed was passed on March 13, 1865. the Surrender at Appomattox was in April of the same year.

dude, if you're gonna troll, troll more effectively by learning some history.

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

I agree with you on one point. Keeping the South as part of the Union was a big mistake. The South has held back progress in the USA for the whole nation. Every advance in society from according blacks the right to vote, to women's reproductive freedom, to recognizing inter-racial marriages to GLBT rights has been hampered by the Southern States.

Frankly, I'd be more than happy to have them form their own, racist, misogynist, homophobic nation, where they can indulge their fantasies of being a genteel people who were just fighting to preserve their way of life. At least then, the rest of us won't have to listen to the bullshit about how slavery really wasn't so bad, how the North was just as bad (pro-tip, nothing is like slavery but slavery), how everyone was fine with segregation, and all the other crap southern white people tell themselves when they are unable to face the hard truths that their inheritance was built with the blood of people who were treated worse than livestock, who were bought and sold and murdered and tortured on the whims of their ancestors. It's too bad that their senseless butchery doesn't merit recognition in your world.

[new-wave-witch.livejournal.com]

sweetpea, shit your family did before you were born is in no way a validation of any point you will ever make.

[farchivist.livejournal.com]

in the confederacy, the army was integrated

That depends on what you call "integrated". Press-ganging slaves and using them as cannon fodder without training or weapons is not what I call "integration".

in the confederacy, slaves were given freedom in exchange for military service and given the same benefits except no black officers but same amount of pay

Born and bred Southerner here. That's a plain lie. That never happened and you won't find a Neo-Confederate who will claim it did.

my family got here in 1877 from latvia

Then you should kneel to your szlachcianka, obnoxii.

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

Guess this yankee needs one saying, 'fighting traitors since 1861.'

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

[chron-job.livejournal.com]

The first violent action of the Civil war was the Southern rebels firing on a federal fort. The south was the first to abandon diplomacy and resort to violence, plain and simple. The military officers and enlisted men who left the federal army to fight for their states were oath breakers. the word traitor is apt, and specific, and fitting.

My family has its roots in Charleston, from before the revolution, and even we know that the south was fighting for a cause that was "one of the worst for which a people ever fought"

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

Needless war against their own people. Guess black folk don't count as people in your world.

[new-wave-witch.livejournal.com]

my family came to ohio in 1877

from latvia, right?

[red-pill.livejournal.com]

murder in the up aginst the wall systmaticly sence? cos i dont think thats true.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

Yup, it was definitely Yankee forces that opened fire on Ft. Sumpter!

[dexeron.livejournal.com]

How about: "being terrorists and traitors since 1861."

[dexeron.livejournal.com]

Um, no.

[tcpip.livejournal.com]

Isn't that the Mississippi state flag? Why do they have a Louisiana license plate?

[brother-dour.livejournal.com]

Damn terrorists, telling everyone its wrong to own another human being and all that. Why next thing they'll be telling us women deserve the same treatment as men. Shameful, I tells ya!

[mckavian.livejournal.com]

an excerpt from: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp -

This is an excerpt to an open letter to Dr. Laura Schlessinger
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

[mckavian.livejournal.com]

Anyone else notice that amusing bit where this, I am fairly sure it is safe to assume, white supremacist is driving around in a Toyota?

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

The north shall beat your ass down again if you try that shit again should be a bumper sticker

[mckavian.livejournal.com]

I have seen one with the stars and bars that said 'You lost. Get over it.'

[trog.livejournal.com]

Both sides were shitty and evil.