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[yelena-r0ssini.livejournal.com]

None of the data in that article backed up the specific stat I was questioning, and I'm having difficulty unearthing the source of that specific stat.

Whether or not it's accurate, though, it's a little surprising to see you cite this particular campaign since it seems to represent everything against which you rail; it's a government program which includes subsidized reproductive healthcare for teenagers and government-funded sex education.

[morgulis.livejournal.com]

None of the data in that article backed up the specific stat I was questioning

You supposed that "it seems like it's extrapolating from pre-Great Recession employment data".

The article says "The city spent about two years and over $400,000 producing the campaign, which included hiring a marketing firm to conduct focus groups with teenagers"

After getting information about this two-year research project do you still believe that the research described in the article used "pre--Great Recession employment data"?

[yelena-r0ssini.livejournal.com]

Well, the Great Recession hasn't been going on all that long at this point, so it's entirely possible they don't have adequately current data. But I just don't see how a mere high school diploma pre-dependents can give one a 98% chance of NOT being poor with the economy the way it currently is.

Hey, I could be wrong; my only counter-data is an anecdotal sample set. But it just seems like a crazy high number, so much so that it sets off warning bells even when it's being used to bolster a campaign that I would otherwise consider socially valuable.

[morgulis.livejournal.com]

Poverty level among married women with college degree is about 2%. Therefore, 98% of such women are not in poverty.

[yelena-r0ssini.livejournal.com]

And a college degree is not a high school degree, so there you fuckin' go!
Also that's a chart of the average percent of a child's life spent in poverty, which means that on average children of college-educated mothers in intact marriages spend 2.15% of their lives in poverty, not that there's a 2.15% chance they'll ever end up in poverty.
Also also I STILL think those numbers are going to change in the upcoming years/decades given that like half the country's currently at or near the poverty line, but still, thanks for the data bolstering my skepticism of the bus ad's claim. Much obliged.

[morgulis.livejournal.com]

Well, different studies, different results. At least when you hear that poverty exists because of rapacious capitalists you will know that other opinions also exist.

Thank you, time to sleep, 1.53 am in NY...

[yelena-r0ssini.livejournal.com]

We're in the same time zone. But yeah, not everyone's an insomniac.