Date: 2013-08-12 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Won't matter ultimately who's against it and who's for it, since ya know, it's the law.

Date: 2013-08-12 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
I DIDN'T SIGN THE SOCIAL CONTRACT! ALSO, PANTS!

Date: 2013-08-12 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trog.livejournal.com
The social contract is just majority rule with elaborations. You'd think progressives would be opposed to majority rule, but instead the mock the idea that majority rule is immoral. Sad.

Date: 2013-08-12 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
It's only sad to greedy fucks who pretend to live on an island. The rest of us recognize it as a foundation to a decent society.

Date: 2013-08-12 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trog.livejournal.com
You need to think about what you're saying. Majority rule is brutal on those in the minority.

Date: 2013-08-12 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Show me a country without a social contract and I'll show you hell on Earth. You're attempting to warp this into some description of majority-based tyranny and I'm pointing out that a society caring for its own is near-universal in application.

Date: 2013-08-12 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
I'm an atheist. I am a minority in America.

I don't find the majority rule too brutal. I mean, I can walk around town saying "there is no God" Sam Harris can make outrageously boisterous claims and to my knowledge, Sam Harris doesn't receive death threats for it.

Trog no understand complexity
Trog make everything simple as rock
Trog need bigger brain

Date: 2013-08-12 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trog.livejournal.com
So when gays are not afforded equal rights because of majority votes, fuck them, eh?

Date: 2013-08-12 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Yeah, you've seen me argue exactly that, haven't you? /snark

Look, do you suggest we remove "majority rule with elaborations" (ie,the social contract) with majority rule without elaborations? Or do you suggest we have minority rule? What exactly are you suggesting is better?

I don't think anarchism really works--or if it does work it winds up being just some form of communalism. How ya gonna keep people fed at those nuclear reactors? Some system will need to be established and you will need a community to take care of community needs.

Once you have a community, rules will be set up. What do you propose we do to figure out what rules to establish?

Date: 2013-08-13 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trog.livejournal.com
Oh, well if YOU can't conceive of a better system than 50.1% imposing their will on 49.9% by force, then that ends the discussion. Too bad your mind is wasted on lesser things than unraveling the mysteries of quantum physics. We'd have faster-than-light-speed travel by Wednesday.

Date: 2013-08-13 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
I'm asking YOU to tell ME if YOU have thought of any better system.
Since you choose to make fun of me instead of enlighten me, I must assume that YOU FAIL when asked to come up with a better system too.

Date: 2013-08-13 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I agree with your overall point, but regarding Sam Harris, he does get serious death threats.

" Sam Harris, who wrote “The End of Faith” and is a rock star in the atheist world (he traveled with bodyguards because he receives death threats from both Christians and Muslims)." (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/16/us/16beliefs.html?_r=3&)

Profile

Political Cartoons

March 2023

S M T W T F S
   1234
567891011
121314151617 18
19202122232425
262728293031 

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated Jul. 25th, 2025 06:22 am
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios