Wealth Makes Us Worse?
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“While having money doesn’t necessarily make anybody anything, the rich are way more likely to exhibit characteristics that we would stereotypically associate with, say, assholes.”
-- Paul Piff, social psychologist at Berkeley
-- Paul Piff, social psychologist at Berkeley
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Date: 2013-07-29 05:13 am (UTC)Does having money make you an asshole?
Or are assholes just particularly good at making money?
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Date: 2013-07-29 08:16 am (UTC)I liked the Beastie Boys comment on this, it was something like "We were always assholes. We can just afford it now"
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Date: 2013-07-29 07:01 pm (UTC)Of course, this is science stuff. Real science. Not economics, which is empirically challenged by definition.
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Date: 2013-07-29 09:44 am (UTC)More work needs to be done before we storm the Bastille and re-erect Madame la Guillotine.
Excellent post BTW.
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Date: 2013-07-29 04:56 pm (UTC)So, if you're a douche-bag already, then money will make you more of who you already are.
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Date: 2013-07-29 05:09 pm (UTC)Though, I would presume we are speaking of tendencies and generalities. I certainly know poor people who are great enough douche-bags, and I don't doubt that there are rich people who are positively gracious and generous.
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Date: 2013-07-29 06:41 pm (UTC)Or, in other words: Violating the crosswalk rule is more of a violation of a standard of practice rather than a moral principle.
When you have enough money, you don't really need to adhere to customs set by other men. You're no longer dependent on others to survive -- if you follow what I mean. So, if you violate someone's personal sensibilities, oh well. It's not going to cost you a meal.
But, someone that doesn't have that financial freedom is more inclined (or willing) to be submissive because it can cost him/her that bare essential.
So, I don't think people are nice and then they become douche-bags because of the money. No, I think people realize they don't have to wear their mask(s) anymore. Just look at the internet when people can hide behind anonymity.
So, no, I don't find that money is the corrupting force here as the video tries to assert.
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Date: 2013-07-29 07:07 pm (UTC)I define "contractual" as something done by more than one party by consent. The cross walk rule is legal, in that it applies to all who drive. Given that the rule is designed to prevent death and dismemberment, that elevates the rule to "moral." So goodbye, "standard practice" argument. Toss that right the hell out.
When you have enough money, you don't really need to adhere to customs set by other men. You're no longer dependent on others to survive. . . .
As a corrective to this delusion, abandon a group of rich folks on a desert island with no food or water but a million in cash each. Everyone who cannot supply 100% of his or her needs is—by definition—dependent on others to survive.
So, no, I don't find that money is the corrupting force here as the video tries to assert.
Again, in case this was unclear in the video itself, the assertion comes not from the report on the research but on the research itself. And the research itself, from what little I've gleaned of it, is very, very robust and repeatable.
So you get the Donald Sutherland pointy finger of accusatory wrongness.
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