Date: 2013-07-13 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Usually labeled as 'national security', an increasingly catch-all term.

Date: 2013-07-13 03:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-07-13 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
That old 'of the people, by the people, for the people' thing is so quaint, isn't it?

Date: 2013-07-13 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Its not a felony to lie to the government.

Date: 2013-07-13 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
That was my thought...

I can see perjury and cheating on your taxes, but that's a different semantic game.

I have a friend who thinks that all politicians should be under oath from the moment they run for office. Anything they say or do can be held against them in a court of law. I think that's unworkable, but perhaps if they were under oath in parliament (or congress) it would change a few things.
Edited Date: 2013-07-13 02:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-07-13 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
"Well over 90% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortion"
-Jon Kyl, US Senator, on the floor of the senate

when confronted his office released the NITBAFS response:
that state was

"Not
Intended
To
Be
A
Factual
Statement"

NITBAFS

That man should have to pay some sort of penalty for such blantant lies.

Date: 2013-07-13 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
At the very least, one should have to say something like "I admit that the comments I made were false and that I was in error, I apologise if I mislead anyone". NITBAFS is not only a cop out, it's damaging to a healthy democracy.

Date: 2013-07-13 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
For about a month after he did that bullshit, I used NITBAFS as j/k.

And then, rarely, when I was serious, it was just, ITBAFS.

But yes, Jon Kyl damaged the whole american system by doing that.
I wouldn't mind a law that anything that is said on the floor of the house/senate cannot be UTTER bullshit.

Date: 2013-07-13 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
We have censure, which is a slap on the wrists really and requires a majority anyway. I believe you have something similar. Here at the very least a minority politician saying something like that would end up having it on the record that parliament had given them a slap on the wrist for what they said.

Did anything happen to him?

Date: 2013-07-13 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
To my knowledge no, nothing happened to him.
He is GOP, and at the time he said it, GOP controlled the house. So majority party power protection.

Then again, Charlie Rangel, didn't pay his taxes while being in charge of the 'ways and means' committee, and all he got was the slap on the wrist censure.

Congress ain't big on imposing rules on congress; I am Jack's total lack of surprise.

Date: 2013-07-13 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
When did Huey say this?

(checks)

Ah, he didn't....thought not.

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Edited Date: 2013-07-13 09:17 am (UTC)

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