Which Kind of Biblical Marriage do YOU have?

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[dexeron.livejournal.com]

Ok, but I'm not sure how one is supposed to walk "hand-in-hand" with someone who loudly proclaims that a certain segment of the population are inhuman and predatory, while refusing to grant that segment equal protection under the law because of a standard they claim to have a book - a book that doesn't actually contain that standard.

I understand the idea that tone and presentation are important factors in convincing opponents, but I have little desire to meet hateful bigots halfway, and were I, myself, gay, I'm pretty sure I'd have even less.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

There are folks beyond reproach; certainly, do not extend your hand to someone who wishes to stab it!

Even someone like Bill O'Reilly (whom I find rather distasteful indeed!) does not proclaim that gays are inhuman--so if you wish folks like O'Reilly (and I suspect many of his viewers share his views) to understand why we shouldn't use the bible for our secular society, well, don't distort the bible! They wouldn't believe you if they feel you are deceiving them.

If your options were to meet a hateful bigot halfway, and bring him closer to tolerance and ideally even acceptance, or to not meet him halfway and to watch him slide further into bigotry, which do you think is better for the world?


No matter how righteous and holy your cause, don't use bad tactics! That's really what I'm driving at--and I feel that cherry picking the bible to imply that it *supports* rape is not honest! There's an entire chapter about how that's not OK.

Gen 38, iirc

*checks*

Nope, sorry, Gen 34

Now Dinah the daughter of Leah, whom she had borne to Jacob, went out to see the daughters of the land. 2 And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her and lay with her, and violated her.


that's how it starts; by the end of it, Dinah's brothers went and killed Shechem and his kin; thus they re-payed the rape of their kin. They did not give Dinah to Shechem merely because he violated her. It is NOT so simple as to say "the bible made women marry their rapists!" which is what the image suggests; that sort of disingenious arguing will lose people you may be able to get! So again, bottom line:


No matter how righteous and holy your cause, don't use bad tactics!

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

(errrr, folks beyond *approach*, not reproach. damn fast fingers!)