Political Cartoons

as a third party voter, in a non swing state, i dislike your degredation of third parties.

i find the cartoon quite well done.
dont let the poster fool you. every valid criticism of obama is the subtext of this comic.

no, they (the two major parties) aint the same. but they got some really uncool similarities.

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As a person familiar with the dynamics of political systems I dislike that you vote third party, even in a swing state because such actions affect the median voter and the median voter effects who the political candidates are

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"such actions affect . . . who the political candidates are"

That's exactly the point.

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either you misread or mis typed. i do NOT live in a swing state.

i know your too smart to support the two party system. how do you propose we improve it? practically and not in some idealized manner?

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Doesn't matter if you live in a swing state. Unless you think that the President is the only race that matters.

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i cant help notice how you failed to include any pragmatic advice on how to deal with the two party system.

and if you think im voting third party only for prez, you are wrong. down to the local city seats, i vote third party, thankyouverymuch.

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The pragmatic advise is vote for whichever of the two major parties best represents your interests.

If you're voting third party down to local city seats you're doing even worse damage to your interests than if you're just voting for president third party

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The Republicans don't even bother running candidates for a lot of races in Pima County, AZ. I can vote for the Green to make a statement, or I can vote for the Dem who's probably going to win anyway...

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Voting third party in uncontested elections isn't an issue. But if you want to make the most of the situation you would get involved in the nomination process

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At some point I'll probably be a candidate myself.

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check out fusion voting/working families party.

now try again.

im doing the best thing i can possibly do.

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And does your voting system work that way?

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i am a new yorker, yes.

we in this state have a history of fusion. the american labor party was something good too.

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The notion that voting third party is anything but a wasted vote in a non parliamentary system is beyond naive. It is narcissistic and shows remarkable ignorance of our government.

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what makes you think that a swing endorsement by a third party, aka ballot line, that carries 5-15% of the vote on that line wouldnt matter?

also, jesse ventura was but one american elected on a third party ticket?

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Jesse Ventura also had one of the worst Governorships to be held, as he was frequently unable to garner support from either of the main parties for his policies.

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oh, you mean the people he beat in the election held a grudge and wouldnt negotiate?

now that never happens to the major parties

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Exactly.

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Actually, if you examine his political history, his problem with the major parties during his term was that he didn't have any solid policy opinions. While he managed to form a few over time, he was mostly a wishy-washy figure who failed to do anything strong for the state. The proposals he made garnered little-to-no support amongst the vox populi and consensus is that he would have lost the 2nd term election if Ventura had decided to go for it. Essentally, he was a non-entity - and a non-entity does not make for a strong leader.

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point remains that third party figures can achieve the highest of state positions. bernie sanders is an example of the federal level.

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Being elected doesn't mean shit. What you manage to get passed and what policies you are able to implement? That is the measure of success for a politician.

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when talking about viability of third parties, getting elected does mean something.

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