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[tigron-x.livejournal.com]

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[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

Not nearly as bad as murdering (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=all) American citizens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Aulaqi#Targeted_killing_order_and_lawsuit_against_the_U.S.). Still, the guy doesn't have my vote.

[beyondfake-0.livejournal.com]

You're going to vote for Romney?

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

I am probably going to vote third party because I sincerely believe if Americans stopped worrying about doing what everyone else is doing and voted on their principles third party candidates actually could win. That's not all it would take but it would help significantly.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

God I hope you don't live in a swing state.

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

I live in Arizona. The difference between Republicans and Democrats in practice is minute these days. Either the Republicans get elected and quickly enact all of their ideological policies or the Democrats get elected and incrementally enact less ideologically based versions of Republican policies. If the Democrats grew a pair and enacted actually populist policies instead of signing orders to murder or illegally imprison American citizens they might get my vote back someday. 2012 is not that day.

[i.livejournal.com]

If people like you participated in the Democratic primaries, the party would be very different.

Just for the sake of argument: What is the last pro-woman bill passed or proposed by Republicans? What is the last Pro-LGBT bill passed or proposed by Republicans? What is the last Republican administration which saw a reduction in US debt and deficit levels? What is the last bill passed by Republicans that was benficial to the environment? I could go on...

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

Knock yourself out. You're voting for Romney anyway

[farchivist.livejournal.com]

Sadly, the election structure we have of first-past-the-post, winner-take-all voting makes 3rd parties mathematically unviable, although I understand and appreciate your moral stance.

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

It's not nonviable. It just takes work. Third parties should stop putting candidates up for federal elections and start putting up candidates for local elections. Then when they get their candidates elected they can build their base and grow their political structure up to the federal level. That's a lot of work and it would take decades but it is possible.

[chron-job.livejournal.com]

In all of American history, the only Third party success was really just a replacement of a weak party with a 'new' party with much the same constituency (the Wig to Republican shift of the mid 1800's)


It makes much more sense for committed individuals who want change , to take over a party from within and change it to suit their preferred policy (as is the case of Social Conservative evangelicals within the Republican Party)

[tigron-x.livejournal.com]

I like your stance.

(http://s817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/kongingtw/?action=view&current=ThirdPartyVoting.png)

A candidate for U.S. president has to win 270 delegates in order to claim the nomination. If it was almost a 50-50 race AND GJohnson won a state, for example, then the above could happen.


People really don't know their power. They just continue to buy into this two party system rather blindly.

(http://s817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/kongingtw/?action=view&current=PoliticsThePeoplesPower.jpg)

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_voting

A hundred years ago, there were hundreds of small parties throughout the US. Most of them were endorsement parties, but they could, and did, wield significant power.

They were outlawed by the two major parties who saw that the numerous, small, third-parties could tank their candidates based on the issues.

There are a few places in the country that still allow fusion voting. We need it in more places.

[chron-job.livejournal.com]

People will vote strategically. The outcome of an individual NOT voting strategically is to cede what small power that individual's vote has to effect the world. To act, or expect others to act, like the world will just stop voting strategically is like a bank manager bemoaning the fact they they have to build Bank Vaults because of all those nasty thieves, and deciding to just skip that step,

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

I understand how first past the post works. If more people voted for the same third party candidate at best that candidate would win and at worst the mainstream party on the same side of the aisle would lose and then work harder to win the third party voters votes back. I'm not sure how that equals "a bank manager bemoaning the fact they they have to build Bank Vaults because of all those nasty thieves, and deciding to just skip that step,"

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Who does have your vote?

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

Is Elmo running? I might vote for him. I support his pro-tickle policy and I'm fairly confident he would never murder American citizens just because they say bad things while being Muslim.

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

I am fine with socialism. Did you check out this guys website? It's pretty awful and there are no actual descriptions (that I could find) of his actual policies other than legalizing weed. There's a list of talking points but that's about it :(

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

I dunno. Someone there's dark side to Elmo where he is viciously anti-abortion.

Oh my poor brain.

Write Elmo in, big bird was robbed!

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

I would totally get why Elmo would be anti-abortion. He is three and a half years old and he's apparently heard that abortion is the same thing as killing babies.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

You thought about Gary Johnson?

Sure, I don't go full-libertarian, but he's a damn sight better on lots (though obviously not all) issues than Romney or Obama.


And honestly, I know why neither party has tauted this line, BUT, legalizing pot is a MASSIVE economic issue.
But we can't go there cause...cause.....cause something. Oh, right, cause marijuana is mexican, and dem damn furriners can't be gettin our kids high. that's the job of proscription drugs and alcohol!

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

No thank you! Marijuana legalization is not really an issue for me. I am in favor of taxes and he wants to get rid of everything but sales tax. I think it's a bit hypocritical that this guy wants to eliminate most taxes but his biggest selling point for making immigration easier is that legal immigrants would help the economy by...paying more taxes. I really don't care for this gentleman's "solutions" to the medicare/aid and social security programs. Plus, I really don't go in for this "job creator" myth the right wingers have cooked up. So yeah he's a pretty typical right wing libertarian and I'm a pretty typical socialist libertarian. We have so much in common but we just can't seem to make it work.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Well, that and killin' furriners.

[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

I might support him killing furries though. But only because I'm totally bigoted against them.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

ZOMG FURSECUTION