Date: 2011-12-08 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bdoing.livejournal.com
I love this video. I'm absolutely amazed that this is even still a question, though.

Date: 2011-12-08 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
I'm not. Sin is a choice. Homosexuality is sin. QED

Date: 2011-12-08 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byrontengu.livejournal.com
tell me you are joking here.

Date: 2011-12-08 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
The logic is simple. Do you deny my logic?

Date: 2011-12-08 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkblood777.livejournal.com
Your logic only holds water if what you base your beliefs on is true. Since faith can not be confirmed by the scientific method your argument is moot.

Date: 2011-12-08 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
Math can't be confirmed by the scientific method. Try again.

Date: 2011-12-08 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkblood777.livejournal.com
Now that's a rather vague statement, especially since many types of math are used in most scientific experiments.

I think you're just grasping at straws now.

Date: 2011-12-08 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
I think you have a flimsy grasp of the nature of mathematical truths vs. scientific theories.

Date: 2011-12-08 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkblood777.livejournal.com
Ah it makes perfect sense now. You are an internet troll, hell-bent on annoying as many people as possible with as little effort as you can spare.

Date: 2011-12-09 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Do you mean that math cannot be disproven by the scientific method?

Date: 2011-12-10 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
Of course, but it can't be confirmed by it either.

Date: 2011-12-11 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
By definition, yes. ;)

Date: 2011-12-11 01:12 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-12-08 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spamwarrior.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that sin is imposed upon us from birth, lest why do unbaptized babies have issues? Isn't that original sin?

Date: 2011-12-08 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
Even the original sin was a choice made by Adam and Eve.

Date: 2011-12-09 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spamwarrior.livejournal.com
So are you coming from a platform where homosexuality was Adam and Eve's choice?

Date: 2011-12-09 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
That doesn't follow. What was Adam and Eve's choice was to sin originally, thus opening up the possibility of further sinning on the part of their descendents.

Date: 2011-12-09 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkblood777.livejournal.com
It's not a debate if one side of it is just throwing whatever pops into their head as a argument.

Then again I have seen the Republican Presidential debates...

Please continue.

Date: 2011-12-09 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
That's not "whatever pops into their head". That's honest-to-God serious fundamentalist Christian reasoning on homosexuality.

Date: 2011-12-09 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkblood777.livejournal.com
You're right. I'm sorry.

Allow me to correct my statement.

It's not a debate if one side of it is just throwing whatever flawed logic pops into their head as an argument.

Date: 2011-12-09 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
The mistake is attempting to treat theology as logic. Never do that. Logic relies on evidence; theology relies on faith.

Date: 2011-12-09 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eleke.livejournal.com
While I agree with your stance, the 'pork and shellfish' argument doesn't hold water with Christians: according to the Bible Jesus said something along the lines of "what you put into your body doesn't make you unclean, what comes from your body is unclean," essentially overruling the ban on 'unclean' animals.

Date: 2011-12-09 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
So by that logic, penises going into mouths and rectums do not make us unclean either.

I guess Jesus wants us to pull out, though?

Date: 2011-12-12 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
No pearl necklaces either.

Date: 2011-12-09 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bdoing.livejournal.com
a) what about the concept of 'original sin'?

b) please tell me you're giving an example of thinking, and not giving your thoughts on the matter :/

Date: 2011-12-09 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
There are no more original sins, just joyless combinations of old ones.

Date: 2011-12-10 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beyondfake-0.livejournal.com
You're just jealous because people are born homosexuals and not Christians.

Oh snap!

Date: 2011-12-10 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
Image (http://s848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/Infradead_bucket/?action=view&current=0007632c.jpg)

Date: 2011-12-12 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Pfft. Science. What has science ever done?

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