TP vs. OWS

Nov. 19th, 2011 05:49 pm
[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons
This isn't exactly my perspective, but I thought you might enjoy it.

Date: 2011-11-20 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thies.livejournal.com
I neither have that much hair or chub, drive a (former) police car instead of pooping into one, my parents didn't even have a basement, I currently neither rape or murder but I do want that shirt.

Date: 2011-11-20 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iluvhistory.livejournal.com
If you need that much text on your comic to identify the subject of your drawings, maybe it's not a very good composition in the first place, jeez.

Date: 2011-11-20 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com
You know what this reeks of?

Image

Date: 2011-11-20 12:38 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-20 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
If only Ramirez was this competent and unbiased.

Date: 2011-11-20 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Ha, that donkey looks like he's had about 20 cups of Starbucks and won't sleep for about six weeks.

Date: 2011-11-20 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sable-twilight.livejournal.com
Wait! They make police car shaped toilets now?

Date: 2011-11-20 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com
If they do, then I so want one.

Date: 2011-11-20 01:04 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-20 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nothingmuch.livejournal.com
Except the tea party guy is probably on Medicare and Social Security and wants the government to keep its hands off.

This cartoon basically says "if you lost your job & home, or maybe just have a problem with not getting a raise in 5 years while your boss is wiping his ass with $100 bills, you might as well be an America-hating communist who rapes, murders, suicides and shits on police cars."
Edited Date: 2011-11-20 01:34 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-20 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
Interesting side note: I recently read in USA Today that this year, for the first time in history, they printed more $100 bills than $1 bills. Sign of the times, eh?

Date: 2011-11-20 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikarugenji.livejournal.com
Wow, that cartoonist is an idiot.

Date: 2011-11-20 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
He's Ramirez. Wait, you just said that.

Date: 2011-11-24 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamie-miller.livejournal.com
BUT HE WON A PULITZER

Just kidding, I've hated him since he worked for the Commercial Appeal in Memphis. The king of shitty cartooning.

Date: 2011-11-20 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
Clearly the bloke on the right is brilliant hacker or programmer (all top hackers and programmers I've ever known look like that) who earns 7 times more than the suburban closet racist with his own corporate booth on the left.

I just wonder why the cartoonist needed to engage the brilliant programmer's parents twice in the cartoon, maybe some projecting?

So, yeah, it was kinda hilarious, particularly the logic between rape/murder/suicide/government - it's like a secret little retro-homage to those last shivering moments of the Cold War 80's, only with American commies instead of USSR ones.

Also, this cartoon is like one of those pieces of wonderful IKEA furniture, where you can make one thing into fitting two completely different purposes. This one is easy to switch on, basically a child can make the brilliant hacker the hero and the suburban racist the villain, oh looksie, I'm halfway there already!
Edited Date: 2011-11-20 02:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-20 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com
I feel that he released this exact cartoon a couple weeks ago with fewer labels. I look forward to the next installment when he draws John Stamos and a Goat.

Date: 2011-11-20 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awdrey-gore.livejournal.com
So he lives with his mom AND in his parents' basement. It's clear a lot of thought went into this generalization.

Date: 2011-11-20 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
Correction: His "parent's" basement. So he must only have one parent; his Mom. Very oedipal. No doubt he iced the old man, too, damn dirty hippie.

Date: 2011-11-21 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
See, he was adopted [NOT ABORTED LIKE THOSE LEFTISTS WOULD HAVE WANTED] by recently married [THANKS TO LIBERALS!!!!!] a gay couple [FORCING THEIR IDEAS ON US!!1] who lives in the same commune [ivory tower hippies!!!11!] as his biological mother [BIRTHED A BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK THANK YOU OBAMA!!122!!11!] because it lets them both get welfare checks [SOCIALISTS LAZIES!!11!] to support their pot smoking [THINK OF HTE CHILRENS!!4214!11].

Date: 2011-11-20 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
Choice of signs: Ramirez found the one guy at each event with an atypical sentiment. Tea Party guy without a racist hate spew, and OWS guy who actually hates capitalism.

"No violence" = police don't attack him.
"Employed" = sort of, but higher percentage of OWS hold jobs.
"Has a family" = knocked up his girlfriend 30 years ago
"Loves America" = except for its government and half its citizens
"Has a point" = look under his hat
"Sense of entitlement" = thinks he has constitutional rights
"Violence" = hits police in the club with his face

Isn't it cute? He drew the hippy with shitty pants. O, subtlety! Thy name is Ramirez!

Date: 2011-11-20 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
This is faily fail.

Wants less government - OK gramps your turn to pave the roads is Wednesday. And Social security and Medicare - what are those? FDIC insurance when the banks go belly up, nope.

No rapes murders or suicide. No just encouraging folks to shoot at Senators, shoot at the president, burn down moscques, commit hate crimes.

Employed - yeah one nice job with benefits. Unlike a lot of folks who are working 3 jobs and barely making ends meet.

No violence - except against minorities, gays, women who want to have reproductive freedom. And what about all those militia folks your group has been linked to?

Self sufficient - yeah, right. Remember, starting tomorrow, no more medicare or social security. Oh, and your day to shovel snow off the streets is...any day it snows.

Loves America. As long as its white, straight, middle class with a three car garage. Uppity women, minorities, gays, disabled can just get the fuck out if they don't like it.

Has a home. Yes the geezers bought their houses when one middle class or working class job was enough to support a family of four. When home prices weren't inflated due to speculation and improper lending. When you didn't graduate from college with more debt that their houses cost them.

Has a point - and its ME, ME, GIMME MINE

Excuse me, I have to go vomit now.

Date: 2011-11-21 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donolectic.livejournal.com
All I can see is straw.

Date: 2011-11-21 11:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-21 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzflux.livejournal.com
http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-demographic-survey-results-will-surprise-you.php

They have jobs
50.4% reported full-time employment, and “an additional 20.4% were employed part-time.”

Date: 2011-11-21 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
That cannot be a Tea Partier. The sign is spelled correctly.

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