From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
yeah I get that but that's not what he's saying. He's maintaining that he disagrees with a definition of a word. This stymies me.
From: [identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com
Has Cain actually aligned himself as Black, with Black interests and allegiances? BDJs argument makes a lot more sense if we don't consider Cain as having a natural affinity with blacks.
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
I did concede that its debateable whether Cain would be considered either a part of hte Black Community or even an ally. I mitigate that by pointing out that the Republican Party has definitely furthered the idea that Cain is in fact A Black Community Leader because of his successful business background.
From: [identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com
OK. Saying Cain is accountable for the spin and words of his party is as snesible as saying Fareed Zakaria is responsible for the words of CAIR, or Al-Qaeda for that matter.

I'm all for bashing Cain, but if he doesn't personally court the black caucus, then he's at liberty to call them brainwashed. Just like I don't court the brownhaired caucus.
From: [identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com
Is this good enough? (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64507.html)
or this? (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/herman-cain-says-he-could-draw-black-voters-from-obama/)

I honestly think he IS courting the Black Community vote. He's just going from a different direction. If you continue to think Blacks are always and only liberal and Democrats for life, then it wouldn't seem like he's courting the vote. If you admit that there are plenty of conservative and conservative-leaning Blacks then you can see he IS courting the vote.

He's just doing an incredibly bad job of it
From: [identity profile] goumindong.livejournal.com
It is still backstabbing if you aren't friends with the person you stab.

The issue is more that he is saying what he is saying for political gain. Backstabbing implies gain.
From: [identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com
If you're not friends with the person you stab, its frontstabbing.

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