[identity profile] darthbeckman.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons
"I mean, it certainly appears to me that water boarding, with all its descriptions about drowning someone to that kind of a point, would come awfully close to getting over the border, and that you'd be able to at least say today, 'There were some that were recommended or suggested on that, but I certainly wouldn't have had a part of that, as a human being.'" -- Sen. Ted Kennedy questioning Alberto Gonzales

...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
that we KNOW of....

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
I doubt Teddy has any more under his belt.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Nah..that we know of that WE killed in any of the "concentration" camps around the world that we set up. Hell, we fly em to other countries so that they can be tortured..but not by US!

Fucking bunch of savages.....

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
Yep. Islamists are a bunch of fucking savages... Makes me wonder why you're so concerned about them...

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Because the old, "Kill em & let god sort em out"...is the same sort of SAVAGE attitude....but since WE are doing it...it's kinda OK? NOT!

WE are better then that!

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
*shudder* I am quite un-fond of Ted Kennedy, but I have to share your sentiments.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Me either...the drunk old a-hole. But at least he speaks up! Sometimes having a BIG NAME means he can't be pushed aside as easily as the rest of them can.

My GOD!...the next Attorney General makes Asshol..er...Ashcroft look like a NUN! He might have been a zealot...but at least he made it look like he CARED about the law...this new one doesn't even pretend to go along that path.

The dude condoned torture! When does it end????

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
It's interesting how people freaked out (rightly) when the Iraqis violated the Geneva Convention by releasing pictures of their POWs... but when we violate it, well, it's just quaint.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
The Geneva conventions don't apply to those prisoners.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
*shrug* It's still quaint, according to Gonzalez.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
That's about all it is in this circumstance.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
It's quaint, or it isn't - it's an actual thing that exists independent of circumstances.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
It's quaint: It's completely unnecessary, but it makes some people feel all happy and mushy to apply it and pretend it matters.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
Alright then, now you're consistent. Now, do you advocate a complete lack of a military ethical code, or simply a much more liberal one?

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-12 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
I advocate doing whatever works.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-12 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
So, no military ethical code.

What about civilians, regular people. Do you use an ethical code in your everyday life? (I'm using the term very inclusively.)

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-12 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
I do whatever works.

I think you've strayed far enough from the topic by now.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-12 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know, I'm just trying to figure out what you're saying, where you're coming from when you say these things that I can't at all comprehend. Do you believe in right and wrong at all? Good/bad? However you want to phrase it? How do you define "works?" What are you working towards? It sounds like you're saying you're truly amoral, which is a rare thing these days.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-12 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
Also, do I get to be one of your left-tards? That's an awesome idea, btw.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-24 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] level-head.livejournal.com
What did Gonzalez call "quaint", do you think?

===|==============/ Level Head

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-13 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somefantastic10.livejournal.com
to extend on what your saying... why should we be comparing ourselves to their standards? we're not condoning their illegal activities; the question is if the US should be stooping to this embarrassing level.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-24 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] level-head.livejournal.com
Um, which dude?

===|==============/ Level Head

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccnuggie.livejournal.com
Ummm...marines are waterboarded as part of their training. If it's safe enough for our troops, it's safe enough for the goddamn terrorists.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moderndayknight.livejournal.com
Army SCUBA school was nothing but a lot of running and a lot of drowning.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
LOL...now that kind of thinking is SO -- um...FUCKING ASSHOLISH!

Do you think we would do to our troops the same level of "torture" that we would in the field?

Especially unsupervised?

With a mandate from those in charge that it's ok to torture them to "almost" death??? Whoops! I slipped over that "edge" and he died...oh well...it was just a terrorist.

..and now HIS family -- all 200 of em are in the NEXT wave...and so on...ETC. Martyrdom and the power of exponential growth.

But wait...the president did poorly in math...just like he wants his "No child left behind" bill to create a world full of dumb fucks...they're easier to control.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccnuggie.livejournal.com
It's scary how ignorant you are.

I sincerely hope you are not in any positions of authority in your life.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Quite the contrary...

It's SCARY how ignorant YOU are.

My GOD! The president of this here US of A BANKRUPTED 2 companies! ...and is on the way to devistate a whole COUNTRY or 3.

Who bailed him out? Daddy and the Bin Ladens and a whole passel of Saudi's.

Read the facts for yourself...not via FUX news or Rush Lindberger or that Ann crazy chick.

Can't you SEE what he's doing to this country???!!!!

OPEN your EYES!

How can the RED STATES not SEE this?

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccnuggie.livejournal.com
Maybe because we listen to the facts of what is happening rather than the liberal hype.

What two companies are you referring to? Do you realize he owned like 2% of one of them? So as long as he owned -part- of a company, he's responsible for how they do. Right.

And no matter how relevant your facts are, the way you say them makes you sound like a complete idiot. Seriously, you sound like a big kid.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Nah..you just listen to the "conservative" hype.

OOo...Weapons of Mass Destruction....NOT!
IRAQ part of Al Quida -- NOT!


Just tell the truth...we just wanted to control the OIL! It's called leverage -- and BOY do we SUCK at it in the mid-east!

Because in a few years Saddam would die anyway.
The Sons would take over and be killed...COUP!
...and the EU would move in and the EURO would be the monetary fund influencing Oil -- not Dollars. Further devalueing it.

....and making the US a second or third world country with Walmarts on every corner, etc.

We haven't had an A-hole in office like this since Hayward or Taft!

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccnuggie.livejournal.com
Do you really believe this shit, or are you just saying this to get a rise out of me?

If you do, then you define 'liberal kook'.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
YOu might have a point, if we were getting more than 3 or 4% of our oil from Iraq pre-war, and if it mattered what currency it was valued in.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ledgehanger.livejournal.com
That's not true.

He doesn't sound all that big.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
Hooked on Phonics worked for him, at least.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ledgehanger.livejournal.com
This (http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html) might be helpful to you.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-11 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
Look, chill out, take a philosophy class or two, and for heaven's sake stop with the CAPS LOCK.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-12 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyzwun.livejournal.com
Hahahaha. I will have to WATCH C*BS* from now ON. I have OBVIOUSLY watched too much FUX news because I think you are a MORON.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-13 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Try NPR or BBC....the closest you'll get to "fair and ballanced" for real.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-16 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pen-theory.livejournal.com
lol you have got to be joking

go back to socialistland

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-16 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
OOooo...scared of the truth...so you gotta call it names?

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-16 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Oh shit...then don't look in the mirror then.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-16 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pen-theory.livejournal.com
oh man that was quite a burn let me tell you

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-17 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Like i care...i got a puking kid on my hands...way more important than kicking yur ass

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-17 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pen-theory.livejournal.com
oh man i see i'm dealing with an internet tough guy now

INTERNET TOUGH GUY!

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-20 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pen-theory.livejournal.com
don't give yourself too much credit, internet tough guy.

Re: ...that we KNOW of.

Date: 2005-01-20 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj642.livejournal.com
Oh sorry...was talking about you

Date: 2005-01-11 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimb.livejournal.com
So now there is a "Ted Kennedy" standard of how we treat detainees? At least Ted went off the bridge with the car and the gal.

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