Neither the $350 million, nor any amount of money, will bring back the tsunami victims, nor will it prevent future natural disasters.
The billions we spend in Iraq CAN bring freedom back to a part of the world that has been without it for almost a half-century; and it will prevent future man-made disasters.
I'll agree with you on that. But unfortunately, there are too many criminals in the world today who listen not to reason but to religious zealots who preach hatred. It is regrettable that education, negotiation, and understanding aren't enough right now.
Nobody wants this war, but I think pacifism is just as dangerous considering the great number of people who wish harm upon America.
A) the 350 million dollars is aimed to help people rebuild, but mainly to get aid into that area to help fight the spread of cholera and other diseases. However, money donated could also go towards a system that would prevent loss of life, such as a warning system. so technically no we can't prevent natural disasters, but thats like saying that we shouldn't spend money on earthquake-proofing buildings since earthquakes are inevitable.
B) you want to talk about preventing man-made disasters? instead of waging a war, what if we were able to get to the roots of the problem, including poverty and a negitive view of the united states. but if we wanted to eliminate poverty, why wouldnt the United States invest some money in programs such as educating women (birthrate drives up poverty) and such. Generally, what i'm saying is that money is being spent to kill people; is that truly making us safer? I've posted this before, but i will again because this truly emphasizes to me how much is being spent in Iraq and what could be different if we didnt have a war mongering president:
please just read through every single one of these possible ways to make america more secure, and tell me that combined they arent as important to securing freedom as war.
C) i love how 9/11 can be tied into ANYTHING, even tsunami relief. no, i have not forgotton 9/11, mmmmjournal. despite your stereotypically closedminded republican responce, much of my foreign policy ideas, just like yours, is spent trying to prevent another 9/11. I will blatantly refuse to let you tell me that i am "forgetting 9/11."
But heres where my strategy is different than yours. Republicans like you, apperently would rather just pick at zits when they come, such as Afghanistan and Iraq, while democrats would like to actually wash their face and prevent zits from even coming. This ties back to the whole idea of inspiring culture change instead of war. The thing about picking at zits is that it leaves your face scared and your not that popular. If you'd just wash your face everyday, and don't give a reason for zits to grow, your face is gonna be much nicer, and you'll even have smoother skin. who doesn't want smoother skin.
for some reason you think that the best way to make people love america is to go to war with them. theres a better way.
Be thankful this is an internet community because your comments would have warrented a slap in the face.
No, money will not bring people back but it can be used for the people who are still alive and injured, displaced and in need of aid. A tsunami warning system protects our Pacific shores as well as Austrailia, Indonesia and Japan. The money being donated by other countries can be used to install a similar warning system to protect India, Sri Lanka and Asia. It isn't used to prevent natural disasters, it is used to evacuate people from the area before the wave hits.
Your final comment would have warrented a jaw breaking. How dare you insinuate that another American has forgotten the Attack on the World Trade Center! No one can forget that. And how the hell is that even relavent to the fact that 100,000+ people are dead because they didn't know that a giant wave 4 days in the making was on its way to pulverize their homes? The Attack on the World Trade Center is over and right now in the present people need our help. And the memory of 9-11-02 will not bring them aid.
wait... did I just read that yet another misguided American is drawing invisible links between Iraq and 9-11?
I hope that comment was intended to be mocking of the ignorance that is so abundant, because it would make me sad if it was real. I don't laugh at you because you support the war, I laugh because you support a war that you don't understand. Differing intelligence, I can respect. Bold ignorance is painful.
agreed agreed. Although many would argue that washing your face doesn't stop zits coming ;) I've heard a lot of things in this community, but I absolutely despair when I read that aid money won't bring back the tsunami victims. So should we just ignore it then? Not send anything? Not do anything? It just makes all the money being sucked into Iraq more seem even more futile.
If only a giant tsunami would wash away the whole damn Middle East. Do away with Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, the whole stupid Gaza Strip, the UAE, Yemen. Qatar and Oman can stick around, I guess. That would be wonderful.
That would be schweeeet. Then we could laugh at all the soccer moms as they have to push their GMC Yukon's to the grocery store because there isn't enough gas to go around.
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Date: 2005-01-05 07:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-05 07:49 am (UTC)The billions we spend in Iraq CAN bring freedom back to a part of the world that has been without it for almost a half-century; and it will prevent future man-made disasters.
.,... or have you forgotten 9-11?
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Date: 2005-01-05 07:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-05 08:20 am (UTC)Nobody wants this war, but I think pacifism is just as dangerous considering the great number of people who wish harm upon America.
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Date: 2005-01-05 08:22 am (UTC)B) you want to talk about preventing man-made disasters? instead of waging a war, what if we were able to get to the roots of the problem, including poverty and a negitive view of the united states. but if we wanted to eliminate poverty, why wouldnt the United States invest some money in programs such as educating women (birthrate drives up poverty) and such. Generally, what i'm saying is that money is being spent to kill people; is that truly making us safer? I've posted this before, but i will again because this truly emphasizes to me how much is being spent in Iraq and what could be different if we didnt have a war mongering president:
http://students.cs.tamu.edu/blevinsa/kerry/cost_of_war.gif
please just read through every single one of these possible ways to make america more secure, and tell me that combined they arent as important to securing freedom as war.
C) i love how 9/11 can be tied into ANYTHING, even tsunami relief. no, i have not forgotton 9/11, mmmmjournal. despite your stereotypically closedminded republican responce, much of my foreign policy ideas, just like yours, is spent trying to prevent another 9/11. I will blatantly refuse to let you tell me that i am "forgetting 9/11."
But heres where my strategy is different than yours. Republicans like you, apperently would rather just pick at zits when they come, such as Afghanistan and Iraq, while democrats would like to actually wash their face and prevent zits from even coming. This ties back to the whole idea of inspiring culture change instead of war. The thing about picking at zits is that it leaves your face scared and your not that popular. If you'd just wash your face everyday, and don't give a reason for zits to grow, your face is gonna be much nicer, and you'll even have smoother skin. who doesn't want smoother skin.
for some reason you think that the best way to make people love america is to go to war with them. theres a better way.
harsh.
Date: 2005-01-05 03:03 pm (UTC)No, money will not bring people back but it can be used for the people who are still alive and injured, displaced and in need of aid.
A tsunami warning system protects our Pacific shores as well as Austrailia, Indonesia and Japan. The money being donated by other countries can be used to install a similar warning system to protect India, Sri Lanka and Asia. It isn't used to prevent natural disasters, it is used to evacuate people from the area before the wave hits.
Your final comment would have warrented a jaw breaking. How dare you insinuate that another American has forgotten the Attack on the World Trade Center! No one can forget that. And how the hell is that even relavent to the fact that 100,000+ people are dead because they didn't know that a giant wave 4 days in the making was on its way to pulverize their homes?
The Attack on the World Trade Center is over and right now in the present people need our help. And the memory of 9-11-02 will not bring them aid.
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Date: 2005-01-05 08:57 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-01-06 12:33 am (UTC)Also what would have happened if no one had donated to the survivors of those attacks?
Are you suggesting that no one help out the hundreds of thousands of people who have been left homeless and without clean water and food?
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Date: 2005-01-06 03:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-07 04:40 am (UTC)I hope that comment was intended to be mocking of the ignorance that is so abundant, because it would make me sad if it was real. I don't laugh at you because you support the war, I laugh because you support a war that you don't understand. Differing intelligence, I can respect. Bold ignorance is painful.
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