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Any folks here from NJ who can comment on this? If the information he's giving is factual, it sounds like the teacher's union is screwing over their own members.

Re: timeline

Date: 2010-09-15 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
He fired Bret Schundler after all.

He didn't fire him for the error, he fired him for lying to him (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/gov_chris_christie_asks_nj_sch.html). Quite different.

They did point out the error and ask for the correct numbers during the interview. Bret Schundler even tells Christie this yet Christine goes on a tirade about Washington not "getting it" and fart fart fart they have no common sense.

Not a lie. Washington did not allow for a repair on the error. Fart fart fart Washingtopn's being a douche.

Since the latter half of this quote was proven false, is Christie now against the free market and the concept of "winners" and "losers" in the business world? Should everyone who applies for a grant get that grant? Is that how Christie believes money should be spent? Why did they deserve to be in 10th place when another state scored higher by providing more/better/accurate information?

See above.

I never knew "I take responsibility" means "I blame Washington's lack of common sense by claiming they didn't ask about something they specifically did ask about."

So no lie. Got it. Fart fart fart.

Re: timeline

Date: 2010-09-15 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
Bret Schundler showed emails to the press which pretty clearly disputes that claim.

Not a lie. Washington did not allow for a repair on the error. Fart fart fart Washingtopn's being a douche.

Why should Washington give extra time if the data is completely missing? They figured the data was just misplaced in the report. The data wasn't provided at all. Should they let NJ get a pass while expecting every other state to do their jobs?

You're in very strong denial mode. It's sad.

Re: timeline

Date: 2010-09-15 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Bret Schundler showed emails to the press which pretty clearly disputes that claim.

Not really, no.

Why should Washington give extra time if the data is completely missing? They figured the data was just misplaced in the report. The data wasn't provided at all. Should they let NJ get a pass while expecting every other state to do their jobs?

I don't know if they should or shouldn't. But, just thinking out loud, perhaps the federal government, that has expressed a desire to improve schools, shouldn't be denying funds based on an easily-repaired clerical error. They want to have it both ways, but that's par for the course for this administation.

Re: timeline

Date: 2010-09-15 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
"Washington" offered two chances, on tape, for him to repair the responsibility.

So Christie changed his story and said that Bret lied to him about that. And fired him for this lie.

Schundler released evidence he had told Chrtistie about his mistake, and had never lied to him.

Re: timeline

Date: 2010-09-15 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Untrue, Bret did lie to him about what occurred. That's the point.

Date: 2010-09-15 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Your article (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/gov_chris_christie_asks_nj_sch.html) does not show where Schundler lied to Christie, and in fact highlights a couple places where Christie and the truth are not on speaking terms. Your article was printed before Schundler released his emails (http://www.app.com/article/20100901/NEWS/100901063/Schundler-releases-chronology-emails-in-Race-to-the-Top-flap), and even back then it doesn't jive with your recollection of Christie's integrity. You are just asserting this with no proof. There is Schundler's proof, where is yours?

Date: 2010-09-15 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Schundler has no proof. He's asserting, after apparently getting caught, that he's right.

I'm not entirely sure why I should be taking his word on this.

Date: 2010-09-16 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Why should we be taking Christie's word on this?

Date: 2010-09-16 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Because the story seems to match what he's saying.

Date: 2010-09-16 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
So Schundler manufactured a bunch of emails on the spot just to prove Christie wrong?

Apropos of everything.

Date: 2010-09-15 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
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