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[identity profile] mikepictor.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons
OMG - big image - a breakdown of the right vs the left. Not a perfect image by a long shot, but they do a decent job of finding ways to put things that give both sides credit.

Date: 2009-10-21 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrofire.livejournal.com
The right doesn't interfere with society and social lives?
In the US they want everyone to be christians and they want to play god. (Jews are okay with them because in their eyes Jews are just unenlightened christians.) They walk around with bibles in their hands and if you confront them on their bullshit they rub the bible and look up at god. They use religion like snake oil salesman. They interfere with society and social lives all right, they try to use religion to try to keep a tight grip around our throats and as an excuse for unconscionable positions.

Date: 2009-10-21 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hookemnick.livejournal.com
Think you've been watching a little too much Rachel Maddow.

Date: 2009-10-21 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com
LOL yeah no one ever suggested that it's not ok to use Christianity as an excuse to run people's lives before Rachel Maddow got on the air. I wonder where she hides the time machine she used to put all that Freedom from Religion gobbledygook into the Constitution.

Date: 2009-10-21 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hookemnick.livejournal.com
My point was that I think the religous nut portion of the Republican party is a small sliver of the pie. What she does is try to equate these nuts with the party as a whole. The Republicans I talk to are that because they want the government out of our lives and want to keep as much of their own money as possible and have no other choice.

Date: 2009-10-21 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
They may be a "small" sliver of the pie, but they run the show.

Date: 2009-10-21 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hookemnick.livejournal.com
Good point.

Date: 2009-10-21 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrofire.livejournal.com
I don't watch Rachael Maddow. I don't have television gods either.

Date: 2009-10-21 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
n the US they want everyone to be christians and they want to play god. (Jews are okay with them because in their eyes Jews are just unenlightened christians.)

What about the secular right? Fiscal conservatives? Libertarian conservatives?

Date: 2009-10-21 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrofire.livejournal.com
to hell with em :)

Date: 2009-10-21 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robertainnc.livejournal.com
The chart references the traditional right wing perspective on the role government should play in socirty.

Obviously, in regards to certain issues (in recent decades, like abortion and gay rights, but even as far back as the 1950s, with the addition of "under God" to the Pledge and such)--the Republican party has broken with the "no interference in the social order" principle.

The left on the other hand, traditionally, generally speaking, encourages more engagement in direct action in shaping the social order.

The chart is talking in pretty broad, sweeping generalizations--which we can nitpick in detail, but it does still give a pretty good basic overview.

Date: 2009-10-21 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrofire.livejournal.com
abortion is no small matter

You accept it on broad generalizations - I cannot accept it because of the lies in it. I see a vast difference between what the American right purports to be and what they really are and I refuse to accept it.

Date: 2009-10-22 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robertainnc.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't argue that the American right "purports" to be any or all of the above, by any means--I think the modern day right wing party is so ahistorical and unconscious of the origins of conservatism its laughable to think that they represent any direct descendency to conservatism much beyond outside of the linguistic use of the terms "right wing" and "conservative" themselves.

This chart though is not without some function in introducing the concepts of both sides--and keep in mind that this chart is looking at these perspectives not solely through the American lens.

Date: 2009-10-22 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrofire.livejournal.com
I understand what you are saying and I agree that around the world this is how political groups market themselves to get support.

Date: 2009-10-22 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
Wow, stereotype much?

Date: 2009-10-22 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
You and MCpreacher should have a contest for whom makes the most asinine comments.

Date: 2009-10-22 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrofire.livejournal.com
of course you are unable to see that your comment is completely disrespectful making you unworthy of respect. I think you just won the contest. Congratulations.

Date: 2009-10-22 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
uh huh. What ever you say, love.

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