Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-17 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drblasphlemy.livejournal.com
So basically no credentials...got it thanks.

There are plenty of scientists that disagree with global warming.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-17 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
what part of majority don't you understand? maybe i should have said overwhelming majority, since that's what it is.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-17 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drblasphlemy.livejournal.com
Even if you are correct about the majority and (I'm not saying that you are). It still wouldn't take away the fact that there are many qualified scientists that disagree with global warming.

Just because you say that it is so does not make it true.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-17 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com
The thing is that "many" is a fuzzy number. Is 50 scientists 'many'?
It sure seems like it when they form the majority in a room full of 80 scientists.

But in a stadium containing 50,000 scientists, 50 doesn't seem like very many at all.

As a percentage of all researchers who have released peer-reviewed studies on the topic, the number of scientists who are firmly in the anti-AGW camp is very small to begin with, and if you leave out the studies with clear conflicts of interests in their funding, they're almost nonexistent.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-17 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drblasphlemy.livejournal.com
Sure at one time the entire modern world believed that the Earth was flat and that it was the center of the universe. Just because more people believe in your idea doesn't necessarily make them right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming#Self-declared_skeptics

I believe that belief in global warming is b.s. and will be proven wrong in my lifetime.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-17 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com
Why do you believe this? Do you attribute climate change to other primary factors?

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-17 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drblasphlemy.livejournal.com
I believe that the climate is always changing and is part of the natural process of the planet. In the case of people actually having an effect on it I believe is negligable. I believe this because the planet is 4.6 billion years old and humans have only been around for a tiny fraction of that and have only really become industrial in the last few hundred years.

I believe that the gloabl warming scare is a way to seperate people from there money.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-18 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
That's not science, that's an editorial.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-20 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseofjuly.livejournal.com
Yeah, but what is the basis for your belief?

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-20 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drblasphlemy.livejournal.com
here are a few starters if you are curious

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=5ceaedb7-802a-23ad-4bfe-9e32747616f9

http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

http://www.petitionproject.org/qualifications_of_signers.php

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2674e64f-802a-23ad-490b-bd9faf4dcdb7

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/963

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/968

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html

http://denialdepot.blogspot.com/2009/04/co2-levels-may-have-been-over-2000ppm.html


Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-20 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseofjuly.livejournal.com
My point is, none of these are nonpartisan academic journals publishing articles on climate change - or even just nonpartisan scientific magazines and blogs that are written specifically aimed at the public, with the exception of Daily Tech. And a good number of them are biased sources anyway (I bet you'll find real fair and balanced coverage on Denial Depot, for one).

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-20 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drblasphlemy.livejournal.com
So you are telling me that you have a problem with the US Senate Committe on Enviornment and Public Works and The Canada Free Press? Then I really can't help you.

Date: 2009-10-17 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Just because you're in the minority on something doesn't mean you're the underdog.

Date: 2009-10-17 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drblasphlemy.livejournal.com
True. But is doesn't make your side right and my side wrong wrong either.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-18 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcpreacher.livejournal.com
using an example from a time of majority peer-reviewed scientific processes and journals would be a lot more effective, i think.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-20 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseofjuly.livejournal.com
The link you linked doesn't show too many people who discount global warming - as a matter of fact, many of them say global climate change HAS happened, but that they're not sure whether it's human-produced.

Only three of the men on that page outright disagree with global warming. One is Timothy F. Ball, a retired university professor and climatologist who is the former head of a non-profit that is closely linked to the oil industry. The second is Robert Carter, a geologist who is the former Secretariat for the Ocean Drilling Program in Australia and the co-chief scientist for a drilling leg, and is also on the research committee for the Institute of Public Affairs, which receives funding from corporate interests such as tobacco and oil companies.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-20 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drblasphlemy.livejournal.com
If you are curious look back at the other replies that I have made on this post. I have posted many links and a video debate with Al Gore.

Re: how about...

Date: 2009-10-19 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
Yeah, and maybe two of them are even remotely related to climate science, and both of those have been bought by Big Oil.


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