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This is really fuckin scary.

Date: 2009-09-14 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zombiesmustdie.livejournal.com
Heritage is a right leaning organization so if they say administrative costs are in the 12% range and a left leaning article from Taibbi claims 33% than its reasonable to put the true costs in the 20% range.

Only Baucas' plan is the only one without a public option for like the 3rd time. I can't be blamed if you refuse to understand this.

Date: 2009-09-14 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Heritage is a right leaning organization so if they say administrative costs are in the 12% range and a left leaning article from Taibbi claims 33% than its reasonable to put the true costs in the 20% range.

Heritage is sourcing the studies. Taibbi isn't sourcing anything.

Only Baucas' plan is the only one without a public option for like the 3rd time. I can't be blamed if you refuse to understand this.

But the chances of it being added to the public option plan is a very good one if the public option doesn't die on the vine like it probably will.

Date: 2009-09-14 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zombiesmustdie.livejournal.com
"But the chances of it being added to the public option plan is a very good one if the public option doesn't die on the vine like it probably will."

You'll have to better explain what you're saying here.

Also I can site studies that says there is no harm in smoking but that doesn't make it so. Even if adminstrative costs are in the 12@ range and im sure that they are higher, thats double what it costs in Canada.

Date: 2009-09-14 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
You'll have to better explain what you're saying here.

i'm saying that the public option ain't gonna pass, but this Baucus-style fine will be in a final bill.

Even if adminstrative costs are in the 12@ range and im sure that they are higher, thats double what it costs in Canada.

Except that it isn't. The study linked via the Heritage piece discussed that.

Date: 2009-09-14 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zombiesmustdie.livejournal.com
Maybe it wasn't clear from before, but I am completely against the Baucus fine without the public option, and you're right to oppose that part of the bill.

From the article you linked - http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/images/wm2505_chart1.gif

12% is correct and a very low estimate.

Date: 2009-09-14 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zombiesmustdie.livejournal.com
I'd like to add that on a personal note I don't have health insurance and make too much money to be on medicaid or any other type of aid program. (I work on average 45-50 hours a week in New York City) The public option is my best bet for getting health insurance.

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