Date: 2009-09-07 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Yeah man, we gotta get rid of that government that wants to tell me what I can do with my prick, tell my wife what she can do with her uterus, and tell my friend Dave who he can and can't sleep with or share insurance policies with. Or whether he can join the Army. 'Cuz that shit SUCKS.

Date: 2009-09-07 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimb.livejournal.com
The government already tells you who you can and cannot marry.

Date: 2009-09-07 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Which would be the point of my response.

Date: 2009-09-07 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxrancid-punkxx.livejournal.com
Who cares about insurance. The federal part comes in when it comes to who has rights in terms of medical decisions. If your state doesn't allow civil unions or marriages, a person's life long partner can be viewed as a total stranger with no voice under the law.

We should not even be having this debate. Marriage rights are like civil rights, they should be understood and the law should be in favor of them.

Date: 2009-09-07 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] homais.livejournal.com
Actually, in practice that's a weaker right than you might think. It can be sometimes be hard to get (often legally ignorant, occasionally just hateful) medical staff to recognize that stuff - I've heard some truly jawdropping horror stories - which can be really bad if you're in one of those situations where minutes matter.

Worse, blood relatives can override that stuff pretty easily. You can write up all the documents you want, but legally, family still trumps you. Which, you know, causes problems if, say, your partner's family hates your guts because you're gay, and decide to take your partner and put him or her someplace where you have no access to them and no legal recourse. This does happen, and it's really, really horrible.

- source: my lawyer. I'm a homo, so at some point I actually investigated what some contracts do and don't buy you.
Edited Date: 2009-09-07 03:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-07 04:52 am (UTC)
ext_12865: (Parting)
From: [identity profile] cscottd.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, that doesn't always make as much of a difference as you might think.

Parents, siblings or children will often insist on making all of the decisions anyway, and they can usually get away with it, because in most states same-sex partners have no legal rights -- documents or no documents.

Date: 2009-09-10 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donolectic.livejournal.com
Do you know how much more complicated that process is? How the benefit is treated as income and taxed? How "many" is not really "many" and much less than "all?"

Or are you just talking out of your ass?

Date: 2009-09-07 04:39 am (UTC)
ext_12865: (Politics)
From: [identity profile] cscottd.livejournal.com
No, no, no... Remember: What the far right actually wants is for the government to stop telling them how to tell everyone else how to live.

One of the most hypocritical things I've seen in the current healthcare debate was when Michele Bachmann said she didn't want the government telling her what to do with her own body... that and hearing Republicans claiming that their party is "all about choice"...

Date: 2009-09-07 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
And once again, irony fails to cause an idiot congresswoman's head to explode. I'm starting to lose faith in the power of irony, I really am.

Date: 2009-09-07 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimb.livejournal.com

That sign would be funny if it were from a government building. We get told what we can do all the time by private enterprise and we take it without question.

Date: 2009-09-07 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
That's okay, though. As long as the profit motive is involved, no matter how indirectly, all is fair.

Date: 2009-09-07 07:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] summercomfort
Actually it's a pretty generic sign for public parks in China. :)

Date: 2009-09-07 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
The difference being that I can't really shop for a different government.

Date: 2009-09-07 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
Sure you can. The world is bursting at the seams with all kinds of different governments. Choose one that suits you and emigrate. See how easy it is?

Date: 2009-09-07 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Not quite the same thing as being able to choose between Wal-Mart and Target, as I'm sure you understand.

Date: 2009-09-07 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petdance.livejournal.com
Where's the one for "no pot"?

Date: 2009-09-07 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
yep. that nanny state, making sure I can see all the ingredients of food I eat, making sure that companies are liable when their products hurt people, making sure that natural resource companies can't charge me so much for gas or oil that I can't afford to pay for heat over the winter...

Date: 2009-09-07 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/gaburieru_/
care to elaborate on these points?

Date: 2009-09-07 02:34 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-07 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxrancid-punkxx.livejournal.com
Of course you are! :p

Date: 2009-09-07 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
OH my. Looks like a fat Republican.

Date: 2009-09-07 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rawbery79.livejournal.com
Well, there went MY breakfast.

Date: 2009-09-07 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
Some Wal*Marts have McDonald's inside them! That's perfect consumerism right there, retail heaven. Oh, I go into spastic fits of materialistic joy when I find myself in one of those. I just looooove roaming the aisles of Wal*Mart with a Big Mac in one hand and an Olsen twins jumper in the other!
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Date: 2009-09-07 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
Yes, Papa Whale, I do. Really. Like I said, pure bliss. Better than a fat goldenweed bomber, a Vicodin, and a triple shot of Jimmy Beam.

Date: 2009-09-07 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rawbery79.livejournal.com
That's a rip. Ours have Subways in them!

Date: 2009-09-07 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Subway = McDonald's sans frying. Giant hunk of bread with microscopic meat that was sliced the previous month, piled high with vegetables that were processed in Bayonne, NJ and shipped and stored in plastic bags. Pass. So very, very pass.

Date: 2009-09-07 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
There oughta be a law...

Date: 2009-09-07 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
I taxi and trumpet where I want, when I want.

Date: 2009-09-07 03:29 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-07 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Haha. WIN!

Date: 2009-09-07 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] homais.livejournal.com
Those signs telling us what we can't do are annoying and stressful. I sure do hope the nanny state bans them.

Date: 2009-09-07 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/gaburieru_/
is your icon that dude that said something like, the american people will eventually elect someone just like them, and the white house will be adorned with a downright moron?

Date: 2009-09-07 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] homais.livejournal.com
Nah. It's just a picture of Borges from when he was young.

Date: 2009-09-07 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
Who said that? Mencken?

Date: 2009-09-07 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/gaburieru_/
haha, that record cover was my facebook photo for a couple of weeks.

Date: 2009-09-07 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thies.livejournal.com
I'll give you my taxi when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

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