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[weswilson]

Oh my god... the dripping irony of the right drawing attention to people pointing out extremists is astounding.

How quickly they forget that reports were request by Bush on BOTH sides of the aisle.

[weswilson]

requestED

[capthek.livejournal.com]

I know, talk about a persecution complex.

Ultimate fail.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

1. See Rhomea's reply



2. 1 Should read "look at those poor dupes taken in by obvious astroturf"

2.2 Show me proof anyone involved was put under surveilance for their participation.
Yeah, didn't think so. Borderline Godwin.

2.3 Any illegal domestic surveillance program would have been initiated under Bush's administration. Irony overload.



3.1 Show me the soldiers put under surveilance for their willingness to serve.
Yeah, didn't think so. Borderline Godwin.

3.2 Show me ANY soldiers put under surveillance for ANYTHING but actual criminal activity.
Yeah, didn't think so. Borderline Godwin.

3.3 Rightards do not have a monopoly on military service. Fuck you for trying to diminish any soldiers service by claiming otherwise.

3.4 The only way this cartoon would have held ANY semblance of truth would be if he was captioned something like 'secessionist' or 'stormfront', 'armed cultist' or 'wingnut militia'. But that's clearly meant to be a US soldier. Low low low. More borderline Godwin.
Have you people no shame?

Re: Ultimate fail.

[jlc20thmaine.livejournal.com]

Those cartoons must be dead on correct seeing how loud you are are whinig about them.

Re: Ultimate fail.

[wight1984.livejournal.com]

That's rather bizarre logic :o/

Re: Ultimate fail.

[thies.livejournal.com]

standard right wing logic

Re: Ultimate fail.

[texas-reddmann.livejournal.com]

Of course. Because Rush says so. See, anything someone says that doesn't agree with Blobbo the Conservative Mesiah is a facist socialist nut, ergo anything they don't agree with must be right.

Re: Anti-Clowns

[sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com]

Love your Icon by the way.

Transmetropolitan is brilliant. (seeming oddly relevant these days.)

Re: Anti-Clowns

[thies.livejournal.com]

with the slight difference of me not having anything against the current president ;)

Re: Anti-Clowns

[sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com]

I was thinking more about the theme of "people being easily swayed/needing a swift kick in the pants"

Though now that you mention it Obama does kind of remind me of "the smiler"
/tongue-in-cheek

Re: Ultimate fail.

[blueduck37.livejournal.com]

You didn't actually respond to the points/questions he was directing at you.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Were you expecting different?

[welcome-to-1984.livejournal.com]

hahaha right?

Re: Ultimate fail.

[xforge.livejournal.com]

They "must be?"

They "must be," huh.

You got any cites whatsoever to back up any of this bizarre reality-challenged crap?

Re: Ultimate fail.

[zombiesmustdie.livejournal.com]

does that mean every time you whine about a left leaning cartoon you actually agree with it?

Re: Ultimate fail.

[unnamed525.livejournal.com]

Zing!

Re: Ultimate fail.

[ihatemostthings.livejournal.com]

lol owned

Yes, because that is the criteria for truth; opposition. Not.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

I love how you have NO answers for any of my points.

Re: Yes, because that is the criteria for truth; opposition. Not.

[jlc20thmaine.livejournal.com]

You have no points to answer, just typical liberal blabber.

You never disappoint.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

No, I dissected your idiocy point by point with logic and facts.

Predictably, all you can do in response is name-call.

Re: Ultimate fail.

[reality-hammer.livejournal.com]

I see you still don't understand the concept of a cartoon.

No, cupcake, it is you that do not understand the concept of a cartoon.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

Or much else, for that matter.

"The medium of the political cartoon, which combines the political and the artistic with journalism, provides interested persons the chance to express their social concerns or political views creatively. It allows them to make social commentary beyond the boundaries of the written word. Most political cartoons are "designed to influence viewers with regard to specific political events of the day"

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA96/PUCK/part1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editorial_cartoon
http://www2.truman.edu/parker/research/cartoons.html

Critiquing that social commentary is perfectly valid, as with any other form of speech.

You. Fail. Again.

[zombiesmustdie.livejournal.com]

Shut yur dirty pinko mouth, hippie. If y'all dunt like 'merica, canada is that way ^

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

Damn straight. If you're not doing anything wrong, why would you be worried about being wiretapped, hm? What are these people hiding?

Long live the Patriot Act!

[torasama.livejournal.com]

I mean it's not like everyone has skeletons in the closet.

[blueduck37.livejournal.com]

The government monitors potential extremism on both the left and right. But only the right (which has gone back to their 1990s unmarked black helicopters paranoia) think it's a sign of political repression.

Don't want the government to think you're an extremist? Don't act like one. (note: I'm not talking about conservatives who wanna teabag each other in front of the White House-- and neither was DHS-- but rather crazy people who think they need to stock up on arms and formed an armed resistance to Obama's private army and FEMA concentration camps)

PS- Kudos, though, to conservatives for deciding they care about civil liberties again. I remembering during the Bush years (remember him?! (http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/04/19/questions-for-teabaggers/)) that we were told 'if you don't have anything to hide, why are you worried?'. Your ACLU card is in the mail.

PPS-- Unabomber. Oklahoma City. This is the type of thing DHS is worried about. Again... not some morons throwing boxes of tea over the White House fence (yes, that happened).

[zombiesmustdie.livejournal.com]

i think its inaccurate to claim that only the right considers government monitoring a sign of political repression.

[syndicalist.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure which is worse, how unfunny they are - I am not sure why the right has never figured out how to be funny -- or how untrue they are.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Second one is inaccurate because there weren't that many people at any of the events.

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

Come to think of it, that soldier in the third cartoon looks kinda like Timothy McVeigh...

Oh, wait...

[jessica-leah.livejournal.com]

So now questioning the government is patriotic again?

[torasama.livejournal.com]

You got it.

[xforge.livejournal.com]

Er...

...

...has Napolitano expressed any desire to do any of these things? Beyond the obvious cautiousness about the number of reality-challenged people out there "protesting" getting taxed LESS, talking about secession, and buying guns at a rate previously unheard of in world history?

Have the artists behind these drawings sat and listened to Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh lately? I'm guessing not.

[thies.livejournal.com]

in their wet dreams the cartoons become reality and they can start a revolution to put the black man back in its place

[rumorsofwar.livejournal.com]

Once again the Right wing is doing more to damage its own credibility than the Left could ever hope to do. Napolitano puts out a memo about white supremacists and domestic terrorist groups recruiting returning veterans and the Right gets defensive. Methinks they protest too much.

[texas-reddmann.livejournal.com]

The memo did not say we needed to watch vets. It said we needed to watch extremists trying to recruit veterans, who are upset at one thing or another, and that the extremists can try to twist around. Personally, I like that idea. It's not the vets they're blaming, but the nuts. Get rid of the nuts, and this won't be an issue.

But then the original poster and his buddies would lose their source of news and information to parrot back, so we now why they're upset and trying to twist the meaning of other people's words around.

Grade: Fail. Surprise: None.

P.S. Layoff us vets. Most of us aren't idiots, and are getting tired of people like you twisting words to find reasons to use us to justify your load of bogus crap.

[jasolater.livejournal.com]

Awesome.

[i.livejournal.com]

http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/1240005.html?mode=reply

[ihatemostthings.livejournal.com]

MTE

Protest too much, much?

[rumorsofwar.livejournal.com]

I love how the Right has actually embraced the white supremacy groups specified by Napolitano's memo as if they're one of their own.

Also: see last eight years if you want to know what it looks like when the government really starts targeting political opponents.

Okay, onto the cartoons:

1.) the American revolutionaries were liberals. Also: ..YOU WISH!

2.) Napolitano looks like Kuato from Total Recall.

3.) Is that supposed to be a soldier or a survivalist with a friggin' machine gun? In which case "fighting for your country" takes on a very dark connotation.

Re: Protest too much, much?

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

"In which case "fighting for your country" takes on a very dark connotation."

And one that NO Republican politician that I'm aware of has had the balls to address and condemn.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

This x1000

[ihatemostthings.livejournal.com]

The only thing accurate about the first one is that only 3 people showed up.