"Israel will exist... until Islam will obliterate it."

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of
time and vain endeavors." - quoting the Hamas Charter

Comments

[borgseawolf.livejournal.com]

Yeeeah.... I always say, it's rather difficult to discuss peace with somebody whose preliminary condition for talks is total destruction of the adversary.

[luper.livejournal.com]

okay, we get it. muslims are bad and have no right to defend the land they lived on for hundreds of years.
they need to sit down like the native americans and accept their death peacefully.

[mindrtist.livejournal.com]

me too

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

*chuckle*

Um, no. Hamas could, however, stop sending missiles and suicide bombers into Israel long enough to sit down at the negotiation table, though (lest they get their asses handed to them. Again). You know - maybe try & work out a two-state solution or something crazy like that.

What a concept, eh?

P.S. You have read the Hamas Charter at some point... right? What part of "Death to Israel" do you not comprehend?

[luper.livejournal.com]

You're acting like Hama came out of no where. That it was just this extremist organization that got random approval.
You fail to realize the whole situation within context, separating it from the past.
Come on, at this point, both sides honestly want each other to die off. There is no just and holy side that just wants peace.

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

I didn't imply (nor do I believe) that Israel is blameless in this clusterfuck. The cartoon refers specifically to the terrorist tactics used by Hamas (i.e. attack innocent civilians, then hide in Palestinian homes, schools & mosques, only to feign outrage when they're counter-attacked).

I'll put it to you this way. If you come to my house and empty a gun into my windows - regardless if you hit me, my wife or my kids - then you run for cover and hide in your house with your family, you can bet I'll be over in 10 minutes to burn the place to the ground, regardless of who's in it. I'll never give you a second chance to attack me again.

Hamas doesn't care about the Palestinian people. In fact, the more "martyrs," the better. Why do you think they purposefully launch those missiles from schoolyards and apartment buildings? You think that's accidental? Have you read the Hamas Charter?

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

No, see, if Israel wanted Gaza for itself and wanted to kill everyone there, that would be far far simpler than what they have actually been doing, which is going after specific targets with specific goals in mind.

Yes, it takes two to tango, whether that tango be war or peace.

[borgseawolf.livejournal.com]

Dropping rockets on somebody is a funny way of defending yourself...

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

Ayep... and so is sending women and teenagers strapped with explosives into open marketplaces, or ramming civilian buses with explosive-laden trucks.

Real freedom-fighting heroes, these guys.

[thies.livejournal.com]

sure they can, just as others can make fun of them for being whiny little shits when they get curb stomped

[tubaboy81.livejournal.com]

From a purely pragmatic, tactical perspective, a Gandhi-style passive resistance would probably work better.

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

This is good thinking. Not only would it stifle the "Israel can do no wrong" crowd (both inside and outside of Israel herself), it would help promote an international push toward meaningful peace talks, and - maybe most importantly - spare a hell of a lot of innocent lives and human suffering on both sides.

I believe the Palestinians are entitled to an independent homeland, free from Israeli occupation/segregation. That being said, Hamas isn't doing them any favors. As I've said before, these murderous bastards (along with Syria, Iran, Jordan the Saudis and even "peaceful" Egypt) are using the Palestinian people as pawns in a long-term strategy of destroying Israel. Let's not forget that the Palestinians have been treated like the "niggers" of the Middle East long before Israel was ever born.

[luper.livejournal.com]

I wish that was true. But, I guess we'll never be given the chance to find out now.

However, I don't remember the British relocating Indians or poisoning their wells.
The German Jews didn't fight back during the round ups, and look at what happened to them. Being passive only works in certain situations.

Although I will admit that Hamas isn't doing this in the best way possible.

[i.livejournal.com]

so, how many israelis have been killed so far by hamas rockets?

and how many israelis have felt so desperate that the only thing left for them was to make one last courageous trip to palestine wrapped in explosives to strike at the heart of the opressors who killed their parents?

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

Innocent Israelis have been slaughtered by terrorists just like this for decades. What's your point?

"One last courageous trip..."

Yeah, right.

[i.livejournal.com]

sorry, pal, the death toll, innocent and otherwise, is exponentially higher on the palestinian side, and it takes a hell of a lot more courage to blow yourself up than to bulldoze a school with your tank or drop phosphorous bombs on neighborhoods from your plane.

[pragmatic-chimp.livejournal.com]

I think the current count is about 20 dead Israelis, to more than 900 Palestinians, about a quarter of which are said to have been children.

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

Perhaps Israel should stop retaliating until Hamas catches up.

[fleaplus.livejournal.com]

I'm curious as to how many of those 900 Palestinians have been killed by Hamas's booby-traps and exploding ammo dumps in packed neighborhoods.

[pragmatic-chimp.livejournal.com]

But, yeah, this post is pretty stupid.

There's nothing courageous about killing people, especially civilians, no matter how good your reasons.

Add to this the fact that most suicide bombers are impressionable youths who've been manipulated by authority figures who use much the same language you're using in this post. Said leaders of course lack the "courage" to do such a thing themselves, but aren't above providing angry and/or grieving young people with explosives and sending them to their deaths.

use a dictionary occasionally

[i.livejournal.com]

courage has nothing to do with intent or results, it has to do with risk taken upon oneself. bill maher was right. it took a hell of a lot more courage to fly planes into the WTC than to drop bombs on afghhanistan from 40,000 feet. that doesn´t mean the hijackers were wonderful people with a good cause, just that they were brave fanatics.

the difference with the suicide bombers in israel is that they actually have valid grievances against their opressors and very limited means for retaliation.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

That was a funny cartoon.

I guess the implication is that those are Palestinian children so despite the fact that the Hamas asshole will fire the rocket surrounded by his own children, Israel _WILL_ bomb them anyway, blameless.

And, its about adults murdering kids. I get it. Funny.

[jblaque.livejournal.com]

"I get it."

I'd expect nothing less of you, but it's not supposed to be "funny."

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

You think if they were Israeli children, the IDF would hold their fire?