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Because of Obama’s purposeful dereliction of duty an untold number of illegal immigrants will kick off their shoes and come on in, competing against Americans for our jobs and limited public services. There is no end in sight as our president prioritizes parties over doing the job he was hired by voters to do. Securing our borders is obviously fundamental here; it goes without saying that it is his job.

The federal government is trillions of dollars in debt; many cities are on the verge of insolvency; our overrun healthcare system, police forces, social services, schools, and our unsustainably generous welfare-state programs are stretched to the max. We average Americans know that. So why has this issue been allowed to be turned upside down with our “leader” creating such unsafe conditions while at the same time obstructing any economic recovery by creating more dependents than he allows producers? His friendly wealthy bipartisan elite, who want cheap foreign labor and can afford for themselves the best “border security” money can buy in their own exclusive communities, do not care that Obama tapped us out.


-- Sarah Palin
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Date: 2014-07-10 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdwarv.livejournal.com
Important note... they cannot become citizens through the DACA, only allowed to become legally present.

Date: 2014-07-10 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdwarv.livejournal.com
The Liberals were chasing her like crazy so she agreed to become McCain's running mate?

Methinks you got your causality backwards there...

Date: 2014-07-10 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdwarv.livejournal.com
I <3 Politifact.

Claim: Joe Republican said "We should kill all the darkies and throw their corpses to the pigs!"
Rating: Yes, he did say that. We rate it TRUE.

Claim: Steve Democrat said "Hey, Mexicans are people just like us..."
Rating: We have round a mountain of anthropological and medical publications which identify the indigenous people of Central America by cultural and physiological idiosyncrasies. As there is a measurable difference, they cannot be 'just like us'. We rate it SUPER-DUPER ULTRA POO-POO HEAD DUMMY STINK-BOMB LIE

Date: 2014-07-10 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
No, only God can know everything.
But we can know a decent amount about a particular subject. It's not that hard to research.

Date: 2014-07-10 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
Yes, I am, but that wasn't breaking a law, as it is defined legally. He took an action, there was question as to the constitutionality of it, and it was decided by the court that it was unconstitutional. But that's a civil action; there was no law-breaking there. It was a perfectly legitimate question of constitutionality, which can only ever be determined after the fact.

In order to break a law, as you put it in the common vernacular, you have to specifically commit a crime, be accused of it, and be convicted for it. What specific crimes has Obama committed, been accused, and been convicted of?

Date: 2014-07-10 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
What is the source of that fact? Please provide the list of names you have verified this with. I await the millions you've interviewed. I have seen no such list or verification of sentiment.

Date: 2014-07-10 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
When you were writhing this they didn't even met.

When I wrote that Perry had said he declined the handshake. And he changed his mind 12 hours later. Fact: I'm not God; I cannot predict the future. I can only state what has been said.

Date: 2014-07-10 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
Correct, though I doubt [livejournal.com profile] madam_shapo is capable of the distinction.
Edited Date: 2014-07-10 07:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-10 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedabara-cds.livejournal.com
Ah, so anyone who seems compassionate is just pretending to further their own ends.

Your world must be very bleak.

Date: 2014-07-10 11:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-07-11 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
I didn't say that. But, that's usually true about people who demands the others to be compassionate.

Date: 2014-07-11 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Fact: you can't predict the future, or the past.

Date: 2014-07-11 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
The Constitution is the supreme law of the United States of America.

Date: 2014-07-11 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
No. The Liberals were chasing her like crazy, so she resigned her governorship.

Date: 2014-07-11 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
I know, that's only one thing.
How about Dream act? I know, that's only two...

Date: 2014-07-11 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdwarv.livejournal.com
...yeah... right...

She resigned in July 2008, and less then a month later, was the VP nominate. Totally because the Libs were after her. Yeah.

Date: 2014-07-11 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
We haven't had a conservative government in my lifetime then.
I am not arguing that. Would be nice to have one.

Date: 2014-07-11 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
If we're talking a fiscal conservative sans the religious craziness, I'd be on board.

Date: 2014-07-11 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdwarv.livejournal.com
What about the Dream Act? It didn't pass congress. Any of the three times it came up.

There is the DACA, which as far as I know, is a perfectly legal executive order.

Date: 2014-07-11 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
What you mean by religious craziness? I think religion is very important part of our lives, thought I myself do not practice it, but I know that it has very positive influence on people.
Let me finish the other reply. LJ goes nuts on me posting messages before I'm done.

Date: 2014-07-11 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
No biggie, we all get frustrated once in a while.
I'm not talking about people who really needs assistance. I wouldn't mind, if the assistance to really disabled people was enhanced. The number of people on disability dramatically increased in recent years. Do I think it's just an accident? No. Too many people get welfare and it's so much fraud, as by design. When the benefits are so diluted, people who really deserve it and the taxpayers are the ones who suffer. In California I have to pay a tuition, when illegals don't have to. Do think this is fair?
He is not only leftist, he is socialist, though I am not sure what right-center really means. I differ on this paragraph.
I actually have a lot of friends and family that are liberals. So don't think I'm a simpleton. I categorize them as follows:
.Do not know anything, just hear some slogan and march
.Pretty much informed, but don't understand
.Have other motivations
.Well informed, very well understands everything, honest. I don't understand how this person can be a liberal.

Date: 2014-07-11 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
He has a discretion to delay deportation of certain people. But if he does this for every single illegal immigrant or whole class of them, then he's no longer exercising his discretion. Executive action is only valid when he is exercising discretion, like pardons.

Date: 2014-07-11 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdwarv.livejournal.com
Oh, nonsense.

It's like the current trend in New York and other states, where while marijuana is illegal, the police have a standing policy that they are de-emphasising the pursuit of people with small amounts of pot. It's smarter use of limited funds.

Or are you actually saying that you'd rather they spend time and resources going after high school kids rather then focusing on people who are actually doing criminal acts here??

Date: 2014-07-11 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdwarv.livejournal.com
You really don't understand a thing you say, do you?

The Constitution is NOT a set of laws, nor was it ever meant to be.

The founders wrote the Constitution with the concept that citizens had *unlimited* rights, and the Constitution was a set of limitations upon the government to ensure that there would be no infringement thereupon. That's why you don't see things like theft and murder in the Constitution.

Which is why Constitutional law is a very specialized field, in that unlike a more mundane law, which says 'taking things from others is bad' or 'ending the life of an individual is bad', Constitutional law requires interpretation. "Is X a violation of this Amendment?"

This being the case, you can't "break" Constitutional law. You can be found to have overreached, or certain acts and actions declared unconstitutional, but there is no crime in breaking the Constitution.
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