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Date: 2005-07-08 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
Seriously pal, fuck you, sincerely.

Date: 2005-07-08 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] levityinbrevity.livejournal.com
And how many isralis have been killed while rideing a bus home or walking down the street by Palestinians?

Date: 2005-07-08 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
I guess not enough to make it fair!

Date: 2005-07-08 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] levityinbrevity.livejournal.com
1 is to many although 1 death on either side is to many but this one sided bull piss's me off!

Date: 2005-07-08 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goumindong.livejournal.com
about 1000 per year or so, usualy around 3-4k per year for the Palestineans.

Both this and your cartoon ignore the larger issue, which is fault on both sides.

Should be getting better with Arafat gone though.

Date: 2005-07-08 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
Fault on both sides yes, but fault does not fall equally on both.

Date: 2005-07-08 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyndz.livejournal.com
Since when have Jewish lives counted for anything?

Date: 2005-07-08 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] levityinbrevity.livejournal.com
oh well shit I forgot the Jews are the EVIL! or is the the Americans are the Evil wait we're all the evil thats right.

Date: 2005-07-08 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groundbyground.livejournal.com
Statistics
1)lie for whoever posts them,
2)in the case of war, doubly so, due to high improbability someone impartial is keeping an accurate count.

oh and 3) when Palestinians stop killing children and women, or sending their own out strapped with bombs, well... I guess then they'll be at peace.

Take that however you want.

Date: 2005-07-08 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groundbyground.livejournal.com
Yeah, obviously some are evil... and full of shit.

Date: 2005-07-08 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavering-.livejournal.com
Must be nice to live in your world, but maybe you should come out and join ours.

Date: 2005-07-08 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wavering-.livejournal.com
I'll just leave you with two quotes.

"One who condones evils is just as guilty as the one who perpetrates it."
-Martin Luther King Jr.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." - Blaise Pascal

Date: 2005-07-08 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goumindong.livejournal.com
Palestinean kids need to learn to stop throwing stones. Some, many, are innocent and expressing their discontent, but it is not a constructive way.

There are a number of pro-palestinean documentaries out there which show the stone throwing, and yes, while some is harmless, some is not.

I am sure you have heard the story of David and Goliath. David uses the sling to defeat the giant. There are two morals of that story, the overlooked one is that the sling is still a powerfull weapon. Slings had long been used militarily in the same way that longbowmen were used by the English, though slingers are much easier to train and equip.

What it comes down to is that many of the kids "throwing rocks" are throwing rocks with 3-4 foot long slings capable of tossing good size chunks of concrete hundreds of feet. These slabs when they land do not harmlessly bounce of helmets or buildings.

Furthermore, the return fire experienced is relativly light, and usualy not aimed at the people throwing rocks. Most of the wounds are not center mass wounds (as would be expected with bullets aimed at hitting the people), and most of the bullets hit the ground first, as can be evidenced by watching the impact dust clouds in the videos.

While the actions of the Isreali's are not clean, they are very much, in most of these cases not at fault, though it would be nice to see them start carrying more ltl weapons that they could use in the situations, but that would require them to get close to the mobs, which might just be a death sentence.

Date: 2005-07-08 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groundbyground.livejournal.com
Seems a pretty good way to repel a distractive force known to detonate themselves in dance halls and cafes, really.

Date: 2005-07-08 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groundbyground.livejournal.com
Thank you. Very well said, with more detail than I could muster at the moment.

Date: 2005-07-08 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
Ah hello again scum, nice to see you're still scum, sad to see you're still here. Anyway, could you tell me how old one is a 'child' until, and what the Palestinian terror groups have as the minimum age before which you can sign up as a 'soldier'?

Date: 2005-07-08 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -hiddenwolf-.livejournal.com
How dare him disagree with you!
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