"when did this become a discussion about out troops and wanting the iraqi people to hate them? i thought we were discussing whether a child could be a terrorist and what the global definition of adult is?"
Hey, you're the one who refused to answer the question. At what point do you consider somebody old enough to be detained without legal representation and tortured because they might be a terrorists?
Instead of answering the question, you responded that a whole 11 of them were actually caught fighting against the US. Well, here's an interesting fact: "From Feb. 18, 2004, to Dec. 31, 2004, the United States released a total of 9,271 detainees from all its prisons in Iraq, according to the Army and U.S. Central Command. The military could not immediately provide statistics for the number of prisoners released from Abu Ghraib, which is still in operation." (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-04-27-abu-ghraib-changes_x.htm)
So I'll ask you the same question again: how old is old enough to be detained without legal representation and tortured because you *might* be a terrorist?
BTW, I do think that the opinion of the Iraqi people matters, and the friends I have serving over there think the same thing, especially when we're trying to win the Iraqi people over, when we need them to work with us to keep the country together. I also believe in the American values embodied in the Constitution, like Due Process, and that promoting American values means promoting those values, not undermining them, and that when we preach one set of "American values" but then ignore them, we undermine trust and faith in us with the very people we are supposed to be there to liberate which makes our job all the more difficult and dangerous.
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Date: 2005-06-24 09:09 pm (UTC)Hey, you're the one who refused to answer the question. At what point do you consider somebody old enough to be detained without legal representation and tortured because they might be a terrorists?
Instead of answering the question, you responded that a whole 11 of them were actually caught fighting against the US. Well, here's an interesting fact:
"From Feb. 18, 2004, to Dec. 31, 2004, the United States released a total of 9,271 detainees from all its prisons in Iraq, according to the Army and U.S. Central Command. The military could not immediately provide statistics for the number of prisoners released from Abu Ghraib, which is still in operation." (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-04-27-abu-ghraib-changes_x.htm)
So I'll ask you the same question again: how old is old enough to be detained without legal representation and tortured because you *might* be a terrorist?
BTW, I do think that the opinion of the Iraqi people matters, and the friends I have serving over there think the same thing, especially when we're trying to win the Iraqi people over, when we need them to work with us to keep the country together. I also believe in the American values embodied in the Constitution, like Due Process, and that promoting American values means promoting those values, not undermining them, and that when we preach one set of "American values" but then ignore them, we undermine trust and faith in us with the very people we are supposed to be there to liberate which makes our job all the more difficult and dangerous.