Re: Rebecca Watson. Dude. Lol. Elevatorgate? Maybe look up what Rebecca Watson ACTUALLY said with regards to the incident (and then the response from the thousand agreived dudebros who read way too much into that response) and then reconsider what your sources are with regards to your perceptions on the harassment going on at skeptic conventions.
Here's a hint: she said, in effect: "Hey, it was kind of creepy. Guys, don't do that." That's it.
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Re: your post just above this one
This is just rationalization of the refusal to address bad behavior, couched in fancy sounding faux-thoughtfulness. "We mustn't overreact! We must be careful in our responses!" Which is about as useful as "I'll pray for you!" and translates to "We're not actually going to do anything. Status-quo ahoy!" In other words, a way to say something (because saying nothing equates to implicit approval) without actually having to go to any effort to address the problem.
It's also the rhetorical equivalent of spitting in the face of every woman who has been harrassed at these conventions. "Oh, you're just overreacting, honey." "Maybe you're only seeing such negative feedback because you're being so negative yourself!" "Maybe you were leading those guys on?" "Are you sure you're remembering what happened correctly?" "Are you just making this up?"
Yea, sorry, no, and here's the line
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beyond which I can no longer engage in rational discussion, because I'm sorry, but that kind of bullshit pretend-thoughtfulness attempting to mask privilege-blinded self-serving status-quo championing is too shitty for me to just sit and keep politely saying: "Well, I respect your opinion, but..."
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Date: 2013-07-25 05:02 pm (UTC)Re: Rebecca Watson. Dude. Lol. Elevatorgate? Maybe look up what Rebecca Watson ACTUALLY said with regards to the incident (and then the response from the thousand agreived dudebros who read way too much into that response) and then reconsider what your sources are with regards to your perceptions on the harassment going on at skeptic conventions.
Here's a hint: she said, in effect: "Hey, it was kind of creepy. Guys, don't do that." That's it.
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Re: your post just above this one
This is just rationalization of the refusal to address bad behavior, couched in fancy sounding faux-thoughtfulness. "We mustn't overreact! We must be careful in our responses!" Which is about as useful as "I'll pray for you!" and translates to "We're not actually going to do anything. Status-quo ahoy!" In other words, a way to say something (because saying nothing equates to implicit approval) without actually having to go to any effort to address the problem.
It's also the rhetorical equivalent of spitting in the face of every woman who has been harrassed at these conventions. "Oh, you're just overreacting, honey." "Maybe you're only seeing such negative feedback because you're being so negative yourself!" "Maybe you were leading those guys on?" "Are you sure you're remembering what happened correctly?" "Are you just making this up?"
Yea, sorry, no, and here's the line
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beyond which I can no longer engage in rational discussion, because I'm sorry, but that kind of bullshit pretend-thoughtfulness attempting to mask privilege-blinded self-serving status-quo championing is too shitty for me to just sit and keep politely saying: "Well, I respect your opinion, but..."
Nope.