As I attempted to explain to you before, your video was of too poor sound quality to listen to. If there is a transcript somewhere, please show it to me. In his website he makes no claim to being christian or right wing.
The youtube page I linked to. The one with a video file embedded on it.
In the right hand bar where they suggest other videos based on the one you're already visiting.
Videos that not only did I suggest watching, but that anyone with even the smallest modicum of interest in the subject would take the time to at least skim.
Last chance. If you're not going to try, neither will I.
If you could kindly find one which expresses your point that would be nice. It's not like I have a terribly great desire to wade through hours of poorly produced statements which don't even present your point when there are no reports anywhere of crimes committed by organized christian militias.
More militia sauce: http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/militia_m.asp?xpicked=4&item=19
Acquaint yourself with some of the major memetic threads that unite them all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
I could go on, but I've beyond made my point.
As for the videos: They all support the point I already expressed. it's not like you have to wade through hours of poorly produced statements, given that I've already made my point.. not that you bothered to address it, or, apparently, have any interest in facts.
A 1999 US Department of Justice analysis of the potential militia threat at the Millennium conceded that the vast majority of militias were reactive (not proacrive) and posed no threat.[14]
From wikipedia:
As of 2001, the militia movement seemed to be in decline, having peaked in 1996 with 858 groups.[15] Even the Michigan Militia (with which McVeigh and the Nichols brothers had grown frustrated due to its seeming preference for talk over action)[16] disbanded. Prior to that, it had kicked out its most radical members in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing; they formed the North American Militia, whose leaders, Brad Metcalf and Randy Graham, later received 40- and 55-year sentences, respectively, for terrorist plots against the IRS and federal officials.
Militias' primary forms of outreach are gun shows, shortwave radio, newsletters, and the Internet.[17]
mind you, the vast majorities of MILITIAS, that's not even Christians we're talking about.
This somehow negates the many examples of PROACTIVE militias?
As for the reactive: that's right, they're biding their time, waiting for a real opportunity or overwhelming stimulus. Like, say, the epic butthurt that will result in the Teaparty's losses in November.
I don't like to accuse people of being fear mongers, but yes, you are a fear monger. "Biding they're [sic] time" for a really BIG stimulus? Geesh, you'd have thought one of these groups would have found the last stimulus big enough.
The term 'stimulus' does not refer just to 'government spending to stimulate economic activity'.
It's glaringly obvious that in the context in which I used it I meant that they're waiting for a trigger (ie, a stimulus). Examples: sweeping anti-gun legislation; major disaster that reduces ability of Fed to respond; Crackdowns on militias; Major right wing political losses. Etc.
I don't think right wing losses at polls would do it. We've already largely expunged electronic voting since Bush's last two selections.
I"m sure a gun ban would serve as a trigger for many. Oddly, Obama has no intention of pushing or advocating such a ban. I'm pretty sure the Tea Party will never be anything more than a source of ineffective energy and embarrassment for the GOP, like the hippies were for the Dems in the 1960s
I think it really depends on the strength of the violent-reaction-stimulus (ie, gun ban) and the perceived strength of the fed to respond (ie, zombie apocalypse, financial collapse, or other massive catastrophe) for most militias to activate.
All highly unlikely, so we're probably safe from most militia violence for now.
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You're really trying my patience.
The one with a video file embedded on it.
In the right hand bar where they suggest other videos based on the one you're already visiting.
Videos that not only did I suggest watching, but that anyone with even the smallest modicum of interest in the subject would take the time to at least skim.
Last chance.
If you're not going to try, neither will I.
Re: You're really trying my patience.
*shakes head*
" there are no reports anywhere of crimes committed by organized christian militias."
HAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh, wait, you were serious.
Meet the Hutaree:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree
Meet the Covenant , the Sword, and the arm of the Lord:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Covenant,_The_Sword,_and_the_Arm_of_the_Lord
Meet the Branch Davidians:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/
Meet Timothy McVeigh, who had ties to numerous militas, but in the end decided to become a militia of one (and a half):
Meet the Viper Militia:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/july96/viper_7-2.html
More militia sauce:
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/militia_m.asp?xpicked=4&item=19
Acquaint yourself with some of the major memetic threads that unite them all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
I could go on, but I've beyond made my point.
As for the videos:
They all support the point I already expressed.
it's not like you have to wade through hours of poorly produced statements, given that I've already made my point.. not that you bothered to address it, or, apparently, have any interest in facts.
Re: *shakes head*
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Re: *shakes head*
Re: *shakes head*
From wikipedia:
As of 2001, the militia movement seemed to be in decline, having peaked in 1996 with 858 groups.[15] Even the Michigan Militia (with which McVeigh and the Nichols brothers had grown frustrated due to its seeming preference for talk over action)[16] disbanded. Prior to that, it had kicked out its most radical members in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing; they formed the North American Militia, whose leaders, Brad Metcalf and Randy Graham, later received 40- and 55-year sentences, respectively, for terrorist plots against the IRS and federal officials.
Militias' primary forms of outreach are gun shows, shortwave radio, newsletters, and the Internet.[17]
mind you, the vast majorities of MILITIAS, that's not even Christians we're talking about.
AND?
This somehow negates the many examples of PROACTIVE militias?
As for the reactive: that's right, they're biding their time, waiting for a real opportunity or overwhelming stimulus.
Like, say, the epic butthurt that will result in the Teaparty's losses in November.
Re: AND?
Wait... what?
The term 'stimulus' does not refer just to 'government spending to stimulate economic activity'.
It's glaringly obvious that in the context in which I used it I meant that they're waiting for a trigger (ie, a stimulus). Examples: sweeping anti-gun legislation; major disaster that reduces ability of Fed to respond; Crackdowns on militias; Major right wing political losses. Etc.
Re: Wait... what?
Re: Wait... what?
Re: Wait... what?
I"m sure a gun ban would serve as a trigger for many. Oddly, Obama has no intention of pushing or advocating such a ban. I'm pretty sure the Tea Party will never be anything more than a source of ineffective energy and embarrassment for the GOP, like the hippies were for the Dems in the 1960s
Re: Wait... what?
All highly unlikely, so we're probably safe from most militia violence for now.
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