[identity profile] l0stmyrel1g10n.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Jimi Hendrix claimed he was gay to avoid the Vietnam draft.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Scuze me while I kiss this guy!
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[personal profile] weswilson 2007-03-15 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Just a guess, but I suppose it would end up with you getting a dishonorable discharge, and I suppose that would eliminate many of the benefits of joining in the first place.

[identity profile] jlassen.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't Jimi Hendrix bust his ankle during army airborn training?

[identity profile] desidono.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Dishonorable discharges are really only when you've broken the law big time - rape, murder, that sort of thing. Chances are, if you just state that you're a homo and there's no proof that you violated the UCMJ, you'd get an Other than Honorable or General discharge.

[identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"I am Thpartacuth!"
"I am Thpartacuth!"

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
More complicated than that.
Jimi for the paras, but felt he had to get out to play more guitar, so he wasn't avoiding the draft. He did, however, admit to overwhelming homosexual tendencies in order to be discharged. When discharged, amazingly enough, his flagging heterosexuality experienced a resurgence, so that all right then, isn't it.
ha.

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
But surely the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy is left in tatters?

[identity profile] adudeabides.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The discharges can be dishonorable, depending on the conditions (and whims).

Incidentally, a General or Under Other Than Honorable Conditions discharge is pretty much as bad as a Dishonorable discharge, practically-speaking.

[identity profile] filthy-bonnet.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I was in community college at the time the whole Iraq thing started, and my American History professor would go on about how if they ever reinstated the draft he would pretend he's gay. He then would do this whole gay walk across the front of the classroom and then in a gay voice say, "Saddam I'm coming for you!"

This just reminded me of him.

[identity profile] edgar-suit.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No silly, I am Thpartacuth!

[identity profile] kadaria.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
My thoughts strayed to the numbers factoid that since the begining of the Afganistan/Iraq wars over 700 people have been "discharged" for being gay. I wonder how well the surge is gonna work with this :P

[identity profile] planetmad.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
NO I'm Brwian and so my wife

[identity profile] l0stmyrel1g10n.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Saddam sounds a lot like Sodom if you think about it...

[identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I served in the military and I can tell you this: it's bursting at the seams with homosexuals. Believe me, on some days I had to elbow homosexuals out of my way to get to the chow hall. Now, I don't have anything against homosexuals, don't get me wrong. They make me feel a little creepy, but I'm intelligent enough to recognize that's my problem, not theirs. There were some times I felt like the only chick at the dance, know what I mean? And I'm a dude! So yeah, the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is a crock. There are plenty -- PLENTY! -- of gay guys in the military, don't let anybody tell you any different. I was there; I know.

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Which just makes the general's comments even more surreal. Heroic soldierly gay types have a history that extends back beyond the semi-legendary Achilles, or the historical Spartans. Perhaps some of the educated officer class should remind the higher echelons of the tenets of classical civilisations: else we won't understand humans well enough to maintain morale except at the expense of discipline.

[identity profile] readwriteblue.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The "don't ask don't tell" policy is very impractical. Hopefully it will be revised (overturned) and a person's sexuality (Homo, Hetero, etc.) will be irrelavent to their being able to serve in the Military.

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2007-03-15 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Hear hear.

[identity profile] desidono.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
It's never caused me any problems along the way. :)

[identity profile] mythrocks.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
only how you Americans pronounce it. :]

[identity profile] desidono.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Precisely. Implied heterosexuality is difficult to maintain.

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see a problem with it. Taking advantage of the system is a time-honored tradition.

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
Incidentally, a General or Under Other Than Honorable Conditions discharge is pretty much as bad as a Dishonorable discharge, practically-speaking.

For whom?

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
I just played gay to freak out people like you.

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, at least I know how to avoid one of these idiotic conflicts, though actually, I'm too old for the draft. (And also I think folk have a duty to serve their nation in some capacity, but that the nation should have certain standards of behaviour as well.)

[identity profile] l0stmyrel1g10n.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
how does the rest of the world pronounce it?

[identity profile] leonberger1.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention Alexander The Great.How I wish the Cartoon was real, to have a war and no body showed up.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The "don't ask don't tell" policy is very impractical.

Not to mention bigoted.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
How much did you get into the role?

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly suggestive comments, with an affected lisp once in a while.

And chaps. Musn't forget the chaps.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Ah! There's so much more to explore. John Waters films. Rimming. Blossoms. Its all in the mind.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
As pope_guilty reminded me:

' Is that a village of women & kids? Where's the Napalm? SHABOOM! I don't want any gay people around me when I'm killing kids. '"
-Bill Hicks

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Whose cock do I have to suck to end this war!

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
But I would have to still be in the army to do that now, and I cherish my freedom.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
We should organize a support the troops campaign to send along such materials.

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Briget makes you gay (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Bridget), right? We could send out manga packs with rainbow-colored dildo assortments.

[identity profile] mythrocks.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for all the rest of the world, but (judging largely from your news-channels), the common American pronunciation is inaccurate .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Arabic)

grep for "Saddam" on the page. It's pronounced "Saddaahm". It's more evident from its Arabic spelling.

[identity profile] mythrocks.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
:] Sorry, I've messed that link up. Try this one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Arabic)).

[identity profile] l0stmyrel1g10n.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
er...if i'm reading the pronunciation markings correctly, i think that's pronounced like Sah-dahm...is that how it should be pronounced? that's how i've been saying it anyway...i've heard people pronounce it Sah-dum though.

[identity profile] mythrocks.livejournal.com 2007-03-18 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, then you've had it right all along. :] Sorry. I hope I haven't offended you.
I assumed that you pronounced it "Sah-dum", because that's closer to Sodom, etc. That *is* the most common American pronunciation that I've heard (including from the US President)... But I shouldn't have generalized.

For what it's worth, Arabic is a foreign language for me as well. :]

Cheers.

[identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com 2007-03-18 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Versus being dead in a poorly executed war of choice?
I'll take door number two.

[identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com 2007-03-18 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
WIN