[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
A real humanitarian this guy:

.@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump) you are an absolutely vile human being. http://t.co/FYDYYYy5RE (http://t.co/FYDYYYy5RE)

— Douglas Booth (@DouglasBooth) October 2, 2015 (https://twitter.com/DouglasBooth/status/649916839485681664)

[identity profile] ponitacupcake.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
> @realDonaldTrump you are an absolutely vile human being.

No lies detected.

Assuming he is a human being.

[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Like Sarah Palin, he may have just become a walking Reality-TV show.

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"crazy cameras"

Yeah, it's crazy that people record someone who is running for leader of the free world....

[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, whatever else we might say about him, Trump does stay on script.

[identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That last one is so true it's not even funny, just sad. The others are hilarious but that last one is just too true. Worse if you are a combination of any of the listed, like me, a black woman. Cue the, 'she's an angry, emotional, uncivilized bitch' narrative.

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
So maybe I am being stupid here, but what can a white male say, if a black woman actually is acting like an uncivilized bitch?

All people are capable of it--and I'm plenty happy to hurl expletives at Trump. But I would probably get called a racist if I were to hurl equal expletives at a black woman, who was Trump's equal. I can't think of one, but imagine a black Ann Coulter. Can I call Coulter an uncivilized bitch, or is that sexism?

And just to note: I try to be sensitive and never call anyone a bitch. But Coulter.....that woman isn't even a bitch. She's a cunt. And I very very rarely ever utter that word.

[identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
My first question would be, what behaviour constitutes being an uncivilized bitch?

The point I was making is that different descriptions are used based on whether the individual is 'blessed' with being a white male. If Oprah said half the things Trump said she would probably be in jail or the victim one of those mysterious deaths that occur in police custody.

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not arguing or denying that standards are unfairly applied.

Whatever behavior constitutes being an uncivilized bitch, can be behavior engaged in by anyone, right?

If the person who does so, is a black version of Ann Coulter, what could a white guy say that wouldn't be viewed as racist/sexist?

[identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps address the issues that the person is arguing about and not the way in which it is argued. The point being made in the original post is that only positive descriptions are used for white men.

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's not true. Plenty of people have used plenty of negative descriptors for Trump. Shall I link to some?

And again let me re-iterate my belief that white & male are both priviledged status' in America, and unjustly get better/softer treatment than non-white and non-males.

That said, Trump hasn't gotten glowing reviews from everyone, and his privilege helps him, yes, but it doesn't stop people from calling him " F*ckface von Clownstick" (Jon Stewart back when he was on Daily Show)

So: is calling Ann Coulter a bitch is sexist? Or could it be that she actually is one? Or is no woman ever a bitch?

[identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
And somehow Trump is really popular and 'out-spoken', 'honest' and 'direct'.

Well, calling her a bitch is an insult directly associated with the fact that she's female. If you found a gender-neutral insult that means the same thing, then by all means, call her that.

It's not the act of insulting that is the problem in a lot of these cases. It's the specific insults used that cross into less PC territory.

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Trump is popular with like 30-40% of the GOP base, who are racist shitfucks anyway. He still has high unfavorable numbers and plenty of people have called him plenty of nasty names.

And let me attempt to clarify for my understanding:

It is possible that Ann Coulter is, or at least behaves, like a bitch. But saying that she is a bitch is still sexist, because the word bitch is sexist. So despite the fact that she behaves like, and lives up to the title, we cannot (errr, should not) give her the title, because the title itself is sexist?

Is calling a guy a "dick" sexist?

I'm not trying to be a concern troll, but I sometimes have trouble knowing why people think the way they regarding PC concerns, so I am asking to understand.

[identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess if you would call a guy a dick and a bitch equally then you should be able to do the same with a woman. provided you're using dick and bitch as gender-neutral insults. Politically Correctness is a muddy lake to tread.

[identity profile] skittish-derby.livejournal.com 2015-10-03 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
safer to just call them all assholes.

[identity profile] fieryphoenix.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of people can't seem to distinguish between being earnest and principled and being a bombastic, bigoted, pigheaded fuck.

[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they probably can, but being a bombastic, bigoted, pigheaded fuck is good for ratings.

[identity profile] fieryphoenix.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That, and it makes many people feel more comfortable with not suppressing their own bigoted, pigheaded fuckitude.

[identity profile] nutmeg-44.livejournal.com 2015-10-02 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
This.