The fact that they express their outrage by anonymously killing non-combatants without warning or explanation, and I express mine by stating it, explaining the reasons, and seeking democratic support for ways to resolve the situation, with physical force used only if necessary, only through the appropriate authorities, keeping as close as possible to legitimate targets, and with a defined objective and end-point.
The fact that they express their outrage by anonymously killing non-combatants without warning or explanation
Neither do we or Israel.
and seeking democratic support for ways to resolve the situation
Since when do we give a shit about democracy? It is all about western interests, nothing more.
with physical force used only if necessary
AHAHAHAH You need a history lesson, dude..
only through the appropriate authorities, keeping as close as possible to legitimate targets, and with a defined objective and end-point.
And you can tell me with a straight face that this is what Israel does or that the US's foreign policy in the last 100 years has always been about this right?
We are not anonymous, our troops are identified. We do not target non-combatants, though we accept that there will be innocent casualties in wars which may nonetheless be worth fighting. We usually warn, or fight as part of a declared war with an identified enemy. We almost always explain. Our accountability to relatively free media means we must even if we wished not to.
Your remaining comments are irrelevant, since you are comparing what I support with the last century of a couple of country's history. However yes, overall I believe that democracy, proportionate directed force, and defined objectives are massively more a feature of Western and Israeli military action than Islamist terror strikes.
Yeah... When the mossad kills people or the CIA topples democratically elected governments, they always wear uniforms. Those long range intelligent weapons are also all in marked. They just have to get a glimpse of the markings on it before it blows them up.
We usually warn, or fight as part of a declared war with an identified enemy
So do they. They declared war on western society and they always claim responsibility. They are also outside of even their societies so what does media have to do with it?
Are you equating the Fanatics with the less than democratic nations they usually come from? Careful, some of those are our very good friends...We would not be friends with terrorist nations now would we?
Your remaining comments are irrelevant, since you are comparing what I support with the last century of a couple of country's history.
Read that one again and see if it makes any sense.
However yes, overall I believe that democracy, proportionate directed force
Except that we don't care about democracy. Our (the US's) current alliances clearly demonstrate that.
and defined objectives are massively more a feature of Western and Israeli military action than Islamist terror strikes.
You think that they do not have well defined objectives? What?
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Neither do we or Israel.
and seeking democratic support for ways to resolve the situation
Since when do we give a shit about democracy?
It is all about western interests, nothing more.
with physical force used only if necessary
AHAHAHAH
You need a history lesson, dude..
only through the appropriate authorities, keeping as close as possible to legitimate targets, and with a defined objective and end-point.
And you can tell me with a straight face that this is what Israel does or that the US's foreign policy in the last 100 years has always been about this right?
Re: <> Devil's advocate
We are not anonymous, our troops are identified.
We do not target non-combatants, though we accept that there will be innocent casualties in wars which may nonetheless be worth fighting.
We usually warn, or fight as part of a declared war with an identified enemy.
We almost always explain. Our accountability to relatively free media means we must even if we wished not to.
Your remaining comments are irrelevant, since you are comparing what I support with the last century of a couple of country's history. However yes, overall I believe that democracy, proportionate directed force, and defined objectives are massively more a feature of Western and Israeli military action than Islamist terror strikes.
Re: <> Devil's advocate
Yeah... When the mossad kills people or the CIA topples democratically elected governments, they always wear uniforms. Those long range intelligent weapons are also all in marked. They just have to get a glimpse of the markings on it before it blows them up.
We usually warn, or fight as part of a declared war with an identified enemy
So do they. They declared war on western society and they always claim responsibility. They are also outside of even their societies so what does media have to do with it?
Are you equating the Fanatics with the less than democratic nations they usually come from? Careful, some of those are our very good friends...We would not be friends with terrorist nations now would we?
Your remaining comments are irrelevant, since you are comparing what I support with the last century of a couple of country's history.
Read that one again and see if it makes any sense.
However yes, overall I believe that democracy, proportionate directed force
Except that we don't care about democracy. Our (the US's) current alliances clearly demonstrate that.
and defined objectives are massively more a feature of Western and Israeli military action than Islamist terror strikes.
You think that they do not have well defined objectives? What?