Keep him away from the younglings (projection much?). And no, its not just label, since most people like their marriage to be valid across state lines.
That too, but I was thinking of the point Justice Kagan brought with the guy defending prop 8-- asking him about procreation and how it was an integral part of marriage, and she was questioning him about the the age of people 55 or over getting marriage licenses, and they go back and forth until Justice Scalia was bringing up how fertile Strom Thurmond was, and you know, completely neglecting to mention women at the same age who want to get married can't really have children.
Rachel Maddow had a really good segment on that exchange.
Ha, I don't think I'm being edgy, curmudgeonly maybe, but not edgy.
I mean obviously there are far worse sins, but It seems like if it was any other issue, especially a conservative issue, we would see similar acts as being primarily one of self importance. We make fun of tea-partiers and their "don't tread on me" avatars all the time. It's a feel-good act for those in your in-group with no meaningful significance since the supreme court is totally out of the hands of citizens. A form of social branding which has more significance for you and your "personal brand" as a human being than outreach or raising awareness.
I'll second the peer pressure aspect, insomuch as folks who might otherwise not be as aware that there are other folks out there who agree with them (or who may have a hard time expressing what their opinion is) might find greater courage and their voice by knowing just how many other folks there really out there who share their views.
I see that all the time in some of the humanist circles; sometimes just a simple act of reposting memes/changing avatars shows someone who feels otherwise very alone (especially for, say, an atheist kid in a very religious family and community) that they aren't alone after all, and that there is support out there for them.
I don't think changing one's profile pic is a substitute for getting out there and doing OTHER things in the "real" world, but it does have significance on its own merits as well.
I wouldn't call that narcissism. I hope people understand they didn't do a lot by changing their facebook picture, but it takes half a second, so meh. Also, when you see your whole facebook go red, it makes you feel good about being proud of your beliefs, and those fundamentalists who post every second post suddenly look less so omnipresent.
I dunno... I noticed a lot of the normal anti-gay marriage crowd was a bit overwhelmed by the show of solidarity via profile pics today. Sometimes it's important to speak up, even if it's just to add to the slow-clap.
Maybe. I just don't know if changing a profile pic amounts to speaking up in any significant way. I have a hard time seeing anyone being "overwhelmed" by facebook profile pics.
I can see that happening. Especially with teens. Imagine if you were brought up in a homophobic household (like most people), used the word "gay" as an all encompassing pejorative (like most people) and then saw a whole lot of people you either like or respect showing their support for the issue. It might make you think twice at least.
Also, don't get me wrong, I'm all for heaping scorn on slacktivists but I actually see this as having potential positive impact. I work with kids dealing with this issue and I know how much it means to them to not feel alone. I guess I'm also conflating it with a wider "it's OK to be gay" issue, but we are still at that point (at least in this country, in Queensland getting hit on by a guy is grounds for justifiable homicide, but only if you're a guy).
I was personally wowed by the sheer volume of people making that simple change to show solidarity. I'm definitely not one of those types that only associates with liberals on FB, so it was encouraging, at the very least, to see that many people from different walks of life say (even in the armchair activist-est of ways) that they support equality.
I think it's fine. Signals where you stand on an issue. Some people want to make sure that their acquaintances know that they don't tolerate stone age primitivism. Nothing wrong with that.
For whatever it is worth, I have several friends on my facebook feed who commented how they felt very positive seeing how many of their friends made support of their civil rights visible all at once in a way they never imagined they'd see in their lifetimes.
It isn't a DEEP or very difficult message -- but it contributes to making a collective statement. I wouldn't denigrate it.
I personally loved this take on the (punk band) Black Flag logo (http://ppraemusic.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/black-flag-logo.gif). Particularly because I read an interview a while back with Hank where he basically explained that if a white flag means surrender, then surely a Black Flag means not giving up.
I believe a black flag meant no quarter asked for or given, and was flown by pirates, rather than, as is traditionally assumed, the skull and crossbones of the Knights Templar.
Absolutely adore would be closer to the truth. :) I'm a huge fan of early hardcore, and the 'Flag is among my favorites. Unfortunately they broke up when I was 5, so I never got to see them in those days. There's been a few reunion-fish things over the years (and actually two competing ones going on now) but none of it will have the same magic of any lineup of Flag in the '80's.
I'm seriously jealous of your friends! DC had one of the best hardcore scenes in the States.
Yeah, my area in Virginia Beach would luck out sometimes, small night clubs along the waterfront would book Jason & the Scorchers (their opening act was REM, J&S was too hard to classify on radio so they never really hit it very big) and Pat Benitar (I think she's from Richmond, Virginia) would perform as well.
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Rachel Maddow had a really good segment on that exchange.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26315908/#51342099
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I mean obviously there are far worse sins, but It seems like if it was any other issue, especially a conservative issue, we would see similar acts as being primarily one of self importance. We make fun of tea-partiers and their "don't tread on me" avatars all the time. It's a feel-good act for those in your in-group with no meaningful significance since the supreme court is totally out of the hands of citizens. A form of social branding which has more significance for you and your "personal brand" as a human being than outreach or raising awareness.
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Oh, I agree, I was being cheeky.
A form of social branding which has more significance for you and your "personal brand" as a human being than outreach or raising awareness
My own personal experiences say otherwise.
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I see that all the time in some of the humanist circles; sometimes just a simple act of reposting memes/changing avatars shows someone who feels otherwise very alone (especially for, say, an atheist kid in a very religious family and community) that they aren't alone after all, and that there is support out there for them.
I don't think changing one's profile pic is a substitute for getting out there and doing OTHER things in the "real" world, but it does have significance on its own merits as well.
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Yes. This. Well said.
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It isn't a DEEP or very difficult message -- but it contributes to making a collective statement. I wouldn't denigrate it.
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I personally loved this take on the (punk band) Black Flag logo (http://ppraemusic.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/black-flag-logo.gif). Particularly because I read an interview a while back with Hank where he basically explained that if a white flag means surrender, then surely a Black Flag means not giving up.
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I'm seriously jealous of your friends! DC had one of the best hardcore scenes in the States.
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So much cool shit was happening musically in those days.
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