http://aurocard.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] aurocard.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] politicartoons2012-12-21 09:48 pm

[identity profile] lilenth.livejournal.com 2012-12-22 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
Nice to see Penny Arcade is still run by a pair of insensitive ignorants.

[identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com 2012-12-22 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
So, people are -not- proposing destroying the first amendment to save the second?

[identity profile] lilenth.livejournal.com 2012-12-23 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
The point is penny Arcade are more interested in "don't take away our video games" than in countering the stupid "video games caused this" argument with one that is much more intelligent and actually tackles the tragedy.

Kids died, and all Penny Arcade seemingly cares about is video games.

[identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com 2012-12-22 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
to follow up pacotelic, it seemed to me that the refrain that video games must be cenroed as they are the cause of this surgests that the NRA wasnt to keep the second ammedment perfect, whilst the first ought to be kicked hard.

[identity profile] lilenth.livejournal.com 2012-12-23 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
No, the argument that video games caused it is a red herring to distract from the things we should be discussing, because if we discuss those then the NRA's bankrollers in the gun industry might make less money.

We've got the fact that the majority of spree killers are white males. The fact that the gun industry often uses advertising that paints guns as evidence of masculinity, the company that made the gun used in the Sandy hook shooting, actually makes a "man card" which you get when you buy their gun and your friends are "encouraged to revoke it" if you aren't masculine enough. In short, the real debate should be around masculinity and guns, and why it's a toxic social mix that promotes such spree killings. It should be around how guns are advertised, and how the public sees them.

The NRA know full well nobody will ever ban video games, the Thompson crusade proved that, it's just a distraction tactic.

[identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com 2012-12-23 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Nice to see you still attacking people even when they're taking your side.

[identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com 2012-12-23 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
Why should someone be guarded from criticism in one aspect simply because their points align in another?

[identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com 2012-12-23 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
I never said or implied that they should. But when the aspect you're criticizing is completely unrelated to the aspect being discussed, it's nothing but a pointless ad hominem.

[identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com 2012-12-23 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't agree. The character of someone whose opinion or work is the focus of a post is relevant.
Edited 2012-12-23 16:14 (UTC)

[identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com 2012-12-24 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Incorrect. The character and/or failings of the person making the opinion are always relevant.

[identity profile] lilenth.livejournal.com 2012-12-23 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
The creators of penny arcade are nowhere near "my side".

[identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com 2012-12-23 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're for a culture of violence? Or you agree with the NRA that media censorship is the way to change that culture?
Edited 2012-12-23 19:52 (UTC)

[identity profile] lilenth.livejournal.com 2012-12-24 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I just disagree with a pair of privileged nitwits who don't really know jack squat.