As they rapidly developed they sent more and more students to US universities where they can publish. Really though, they have four times our population so they should publish four times as much, not just the same if you think about it per capita. I am surprised India is so low, I know lots of brilliant Indian graduate students who have published. My guess is that it will rise next.
I think the issue is just numbers. India has a huge dichotomy between first world rich to middle class which is doing pretty great and then super poor.
I don't disbelieve the information but I don't find this graph to be great evidence. They're taking a 5 year increase and extrapoliating it out ~13 years. It would be interesting if they had this graph data for this year, would give a lot clearer picture of what things look like.
Certainly, but all of those citations and publications are still overwhelmingly coming from US universities. We aren't losing all our brain power to China, we're just importing theirs.
Are you sure about that? It sounds plausible, but I think it's underestimating the size of the Chinese education community. China enroled half a million post grads last year. In the years 1998-2009, there were only 32000 Chinese get their PhDs from a US university.
IMO the real story behind China's figures is the boom in education. They're going through what we in the west went through in the post-WWII period. The US had the GI bill and Europe started making university free for everyone; the graduate population explodes. As Capthek said, raw numbers don't tell the full story; looking at citations per GDP unit or per capita will give further insight.
I think one of the biggest risks is that it risks separating the scientific community into two language groups; Mandarin and English. English has been the scientific lingua franca for at least since the second world war. Prior to this the history of science is littered with examples of one person publishing something in Swedish that is revolutionary that doesn't get translated for 40 years, by which time someone somewhere else has discovered it (or 40 years of knowledge has been missed). There's also similar implications for the internet; will we end up with an English language and a Mandarin language zone. I don't have an opinion either way; it's just possibilities.
In the years 1998-2009, there were only 32000 Chinese get their PhDs from a US university.
Oh, forgot to mention, the methodology of this study just looked at Chinese names; so this means that it wasn't just Chinese students, but American students with Chinese backgrounds along with Malay/Singaporean etc. Chinese.
Another figure for perspective, in 2007-8, the US enrolled just over 600 000 international students in all degree types. In other words about the same amount of foreigners are going to uni in the US as there are people starting post grads in China.
After a quick look through the archives of Science, I can say that there has not been a significant increase in articles from Chinese universities in there in the last couple of years, while there has been a lot of Chinese names from US institutions. Sadly, I don't know what the top journals in particular science fields are, so this is merely observational data from a high-end journal.
For an example from outside of the science domain, Texas A&M recently released a count of total articles published in the 8 A-level journals for management over the last six years, and for just 2010. No university outside of the US or Canada was in the top 50 of either list.
I'm sure Chinese science is dogged by the same problems as Chinese society in general - corruption and shoddiness, very like America in the late 1800's. But I expect that, like in America, the cream will rise to the top and quality will win out.
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On the other hand, we are consistently outperforming them on snark, Lolcats and Tea-Bagger-English signs.
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IMO the real story behind China's figures is the boom in education. They're going through what we in the west went through in the post-WWII period. The US had the GI bill and Europe started making university free for everyone; the graduate population explodes. As Capthek said, raw numbers don't tell the full story; looking at citations per GDP unit or per capita will give further insight.
I think one of the biggest risks is that it risks separating the scientific community into two language groups; Mandarin and English. English has been the scientific lingua franca for at least since the second world war. Prior to this the history of science is littered with examples of one person publishing something in Swedish that is revolutionary that doesn't get translated for 40 years, by which time someone somewhere else has discovered it (or 40 years of knowledge has been missed). There's also similar implications for the internet; will we end up with an English language and a Mandarin language zone. I don't have an opinion either way; it's just possibilities.
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Oh, forgot to mention, the methodology of this study just looked at Chinese names; so this means that it wasn't just Chinese students, but American students with Chinese backgrounds along with Malay/Singaporean etc. Chinese.
Another figure for perspective, in 2007-8, the US enrolled just over 600 000 international students in all degree types. In other words about the same amount of foreigners are going to uni in the US as there are people starting post grads in China.
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For an example from outside of the science domain, Texas A&M recently released a count of total articles published in the 8 A-level journals for management over the last six years, and for just 2010. No university outside of the US or Canada was in the top 50 of either list.
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