And now, on the topic of healthcare reform...

[dwer.livejournal.com]

Comments

[mikepictor.livejournal.com]

Considering the number of single payer systems that are providing higher quality health care than the US, it must be possible to make it work.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

The problem is that I'm not at all convinced they're providing noticeably higher quality care, if the care is higher quality at all.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

why should things like facts sway you?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Facts are exactly what sway me. It's why i'm strongly opposed to the single payer lunacy you support.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

it's not facts that are swaying you away from single payer. If you were paying attention to the facts, you would WANT single payer.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I suppose if the facts made it so it was absolutely better and was Constitutional, I would. Since those things aren't true...

[dwer.livejournal.com]

except for the part where they will, and they are.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I'm still waiting.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

no, you're actively assisting in the lies and calumny. But it's hardly my fault that you don't appear to understand statistics. (http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/1622638.html?thread=34889070#t34889070)

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Man, you fell right into that trap.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

I've fallen into no trap. You don't seem to be able to comprehend the numbers.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

You have fallen into a trap, you're simply too ignorant of the facts to realize it. Here's a hint - illegal immigrants.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

I don't give a shit if they're illegal or not. FUCK THAT NOISE.

never mind the fact that it doesn't break the group down by immigration/citizen status anyway.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

What's wrong with me? I'm just smarter, and that really annoys you.

And you should give a shit - if 10 million of the 45 million are illegal, obviously you can't say 45 million Americans are uninsured. Basic math!

[dwer.livejournal.com]

well, your little chart doesn't break that information down, does it. So, you got nothing.

As usual.

[mcpreacher.livejournal.com]

so... death to 35 million people so you can spite another 10 million?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

It doesn't equal death, you know that.

[mcpreacher.livejournal.com]

for some it just means nigh-permanent unemployment which, in a libertopia, equals death.

it's like a death panel but free-range.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

You're funny.

[mcpreacher.livejournal.com]

i live in the libertopia of arizona and let me tell you, dying is a goddamn dream. i feel so fucking free.