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Hmm.
I know we've all thought it before now (Faux's agenda being what it is) but this is the first time that I've seen it as a cartoon. If anyone digs up a previous instance it would be interesting to compare.

[identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
How does the story about health care reform make him look bad, as opposed to his opponents? Obama's worst quality in the health care debates is trying to make a bipartisan bill as opposed to get all the Democrats on board. That is notably less bad than the opposition, who screams and yells during congressional forums, who tell their constituents that the President will kill their grandparents, who claim that the President wants to secretly help Mexicans, etc.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Opposition may be as bad as hell, I don't care. I'm discussing the point that the President is failing. If he can't handle the bad opposition, he is failing. If he choose a wrong strategy by trying to make a bipartisan bill, he is failing. There are no excuses in this position. No result means failure. If he manage after all to get this reform done an some meaningful form, not as a Baucus draft, which is hated on both sides of the isle, and there will be no political fallout, I will admit I was wrong. If not - sorry, he is a failure.

[identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't consider a bill not passing due to fear tactics and a notable portion of the population being more prone to terrifying statements than reasonable logic a failure on the President, but instead a failure on our society itself.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the only way for President to escape failure in this case would be to try and find another society to preside. Good luck with that.

[identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly the panicked masses think that a stronger school program is socialism is disguise.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's assume it's true. Even if it is: couldn't convince masses that you are right? Failure. That was your job as the President. No excuses.

[identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree in this context.

If he failed to convince rational people that his plan was the best option, then yes he would fail. But when a strong number of the voices against his plan rely on racism, jingoism, xenophobia, and other assorted fear tactics/othering, the failure of progressing as a country rests on their shoulders instead.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/1556495.html?thread=33018639#t33018639

[identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That's nice, dear.