[identity profile] blueduck37.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The majority of Americans voted for President Obama.

The majority of Americans are represented in the House and Senate by Democrats.

The majority of Americans support health-care reform.

To be more specific, the majority (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/20/new-poll-77-percent-suppo_n_264375.html) of Americans support the public option. To be even more (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/09/the-public-option.html) specific, independents support it by a margin of 57-33.

Your side may be the loudest right now, but you are not the majority. Just sayin'.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Great links.

First link says that survey was commissioned by MoveOn, and add that "Earlier in the week, after pollsters for NBC dropped the word "choice" from their question on a public option, they found that only 43 percent of the public were in favor of "creating a public health care plan administered by the federal government that would compete directly with private health insurance companies."

Second link gives us the DailyKos poll.

This is auto-hypnosis, my friend. Not that I mind, though: the more you guys are out of touch, the better. So please don't look at more respected pollsters like Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/122822/Americans-Sharply-Divided-Healthcare-Reform.aspx).

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Like it changes something. Research 2000 can call itself "the Nation’s most unbiased and reliable research firm", but people will still be searching for reliable data in other places.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
i.e. Gallup. For instance. But you can ignore it. Please, by all means. As I said, the more you are out of touch, the better.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
ironic comment is ironic.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Polls down, Republicans hijacked the message, and you still think the town halls riots were stupid. That's really good. I can only hope the rest of your lot share this opinion. Unfortunately, some progressives are less blind (http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/09/09/healthcare/).

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, being blind is sometimes comfortable. On the other hand, a lot of unpleasant surprises.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
This debating technique looked rather appealing to me when I was in kindergarten. It kind of lost its attractiveness since I got acquainted with, er, less obvious tactics. You, though, seem to value it pretty high. No surprise: most of progressives are understandably very childish.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it's just a shadow on a cave wall, right? Who are we to know?

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[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
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