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politicartoons2017-02-09 11:52 am
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And maybe you've misunderstood my point? The worker visas would work no different than student exchange programs.
The "power dynamic" doesn't stop people from going back to their own people with their new skills and developing their nations capital, unless you think they're incapable of doing so, and that's the real reason why you advocate for forced integration.
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Peristaltor's basically saying that if we judge that law based on its effect, then the law is probably a racist one, because there is a power imbalance. The power imbalance is like that in a "sundown town": The majority-race locals form an agreement that they will deny services to whatever races they dislike - including jobs, goods, property, access to education - whether by passing laws or just by intimidation and violence, so that people of those races cannot put down any roots and stay in the area, thus preserving the integrity or purity of their race.
Needless to say it doesn't square with this nation's history of welcoming immigrants of whatever ethnicity, putting them to work, and doing business with them, to enhance the dignity and fortunes of everyone involved...
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There was never a national policy that we should be mixing. That never happened. The US isn't a melting pot even though there are so many distinct groups in proximity of one another. People behaved ethnocentrically even then. The only difference now is that this sort of tribalism is being vilified.
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That's not to say there hasn't always been ethno-centric resistance, especially from people who are grossed out by the prospect of their pretty white women being sullied by savage black penises. How it must aggravate those people, when their daughters or girlfriends go off with a dark-skinned man and make babies, seemingly in defiance of "common sense." Men have always generally shown an intense desire to control the reproductive destiny of the women in their lives, and ethno-centrism has always aggravated that desire.
Now, I don't think this is grounds for another digression into what's "natural", because to me, it's irrelevant. I hold that people are free to be attracted to, and marry, whomever they like. They just need to go into it with both eyes open because sometimes their choices will not sit well with their community, and they might need that community for support. On the other hand, men and women alike are stubborn either way. A guy will elope with a woman who is a hot mess even though he knows she's no good for him. Mormon families have a long and ugly history of totally disowning any child that marries a non-Mormon, or god forbid, a dark-skinned person. Personally I think that disowning is tragic and stupid. But I wouldn't deny that it happens.
The US certainly has not been a 100% exemplar of happy integration; hell no. But it's done a better job integrating new groups than any other nation, and that's worth something, and also why the term "melting pot" was coined (as the title of a play celebrating cultural mixing in New York over 100 years ago, by the way).
You think "this sort of tribalism" is only being vilified now? It's been vilified since before the nation was established. I will go so far as to say it's involved in many of the worst episodes in American history, and none of the good ones. I could make you a list.
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This is to be defined as an emotional reaction, not a reasoned and dispassionate logical explanation. I've seen a quite reasonable person shudder with rage, for example, when I've told them their black co-worker has a cute blond wife.
He was raised by Southern folks who were unappologetically racist, but he's getting better. I think.
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Your ellipsis shows the sarcasm! Well done!
Just saying, the ownership codicils in our own neighborhood noted that we could not sell to various ethnic groups or have them in the house after dark unless they were live-in domestic help. And The Wife™ and I live in Seattle, about as lefty as cities come. And our neighborhood was hardly unique. People wouldn't buy in neighborhoods that didn't have such restrictions (well, white people, and the right kind of white at that).
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Which ethnic groups were singled out?
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Most of these were repealed by a vote of the communities. One, along Lake Washington, decided to keep theirs intact. (Matthews Beach might have been the holdout; I can't remember exactly.)
Oh, and just for emphasis: Eastern Europeans were not considered "white" or "caucasian" enough. My friend's grandfather had to move to the East side of Lk. WA because he was Croatian, and didn't want to buy property next to blacks.
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