[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-01-25 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
You know all the tactics that well because that's what you usually do?
Genius, every forth family in Europe lost somebody in WWII, so it's not unusually at all to have somebody killed fighting Nazis. As a matter of fact, every single man over 18 was recruited. Again, you are arguing about things you know nothing about. Sorry, genius like you knows everything.
You really think I care about your feelings to bother to make up some story. You already embarrassed yourself many times, I would not waste any effort to embarrass you again. On the other hand you have your followers, that will stick with you no matter what.
Poland and Lithuania, but were they fighting Nazis? There were plenty of nazi collaborators in Lithuania, in case you didn't know.
Stop using such heavy words like genocide without any basis, that is shameful.

[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2017-01-25 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Genocide is explicitly what some in the neo-Nazi movement in the U.S. are calling for. Your pretending otherwise isn't going to fly with me.

For all your insults, you seem to be less informed of the history you claim to have inherited than I am. But at this point you're not even bothering to offer specifics, so who can say? You're just trying to bully your way through.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-01-27 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
What the hell are you talking about? Are you referring to Lithuania? It is known fact that half of them were fighting with Nazis and other half weren't fighting. What kind of specifics do you want?
Looks like the great loss you have suffered on November 8, totally shifted your brains even more.

[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2017-01-27 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, look - it's the open of business in Moscow. Funny that.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-01-27 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Answer the question - what is that I don't know about the history.
What Moscow has to do with anything?

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-01-29 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I am waiting for your explanation. As always, you through around accusations and then disappear. Very courageous of you.

[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2017-01-30 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't owe you one god damn thing.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-01-31 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
No, you don't - because you are a bomb thrower. You throw baseless accusations, but when it's time to support you claims, you just pretend not to be interested in conversation or some similar tactics. You should be ashamed of yourself. While my family paid the ultimate price fighting real fascists, you just sit on your behind and throw accusation at people you have no idea about. I suggest you to explore your own background first.
And by the way, a friendly advice - normal people do not like arrogance, so try to tone it down, it will be beneficiary for your relations.

[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2017-01-31 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You have earned every ounce of disrespect I show you. Could I explain, in detail, why you are wrong and I am right? Of course I can. But then you'll ignore everything I say that is correct and attack me for my tone. Because that's the sort of person you are. You are a troll. Your only function here is to disrupt discussion with blatant lies and to troll anyone who might naively endeavor to engage you like a rational adult to the point of exhaustion.

I am not naive. I recognize your techniques. I can see that you're a neo-Nazi. So no, I refuse to give you the respect you demand but haven't earned.

And, once again, I call bullshit on your claimed family connection. It's just another of your lies.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-02-01 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
No, you are so wrong again, I'm not neo-Nazi - I am a real Nazi, actually I was an adjutant of general Guderian.
You are an idiot, by the way. I already explained you that it is very common for that large area to have a family member killed fighting fascists. For some reason you can't comprehend that. On the other hand, there is very high probability that your ancestors were fascist collaborators, or worse.
Did I ever requested your respect? You totally misunderstood.

[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2017-02-01 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
I can comprehend what you're saying just fine. What I doubt is the veracity of your claims that you have a personal connection to any of it. As is typical, you're pretending not to understand a statement I have actually put forth repeatedly, choosing instead to call me an "idiot" for saying something I haven't said.

I think you manufactured this claim in order to attempt to shame me for calling you a neo-Nazi, on the assumption that the pearl-clutching empathetic liberals of this community would view your putative "heritage" as exempting you from such unsavory comparisons. But your gambit has failed. You've exhausted too much of this community's good faith, you've established too clearly that you will lie to suit your purposes, for this cynical plea for sympathy to work.

You are alone here, and disliked. You're not trusted and seldom believed. Your insults are rote and so automatic that they carry no force.

You have implicitly demanded my respect, many times, by insisting that I treat you like an adult. That I explain my positions, that I respond to you with arguments instead of polemic. Again, you fail to acknowledge what I have explicitly put to you - you are a neo-Nazi, you have an agenda that is contrary to rational discourse, so you are beneath such shows of respect or engagement. You will do everything you can to turn my good faith against me, so it is not something I will offer you any longer.
Edited 2017-02-01 03:42 (UTC)

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-02-01 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Let me try again. If somebody from jungles of Amazon claims that he went to college - it is hard to believe, but if same claim made by you and I don't believe it, then I am being pretty idiotic. If you didn't believe that my ancestors fought in Trojan War, you wouldn't be irrational, but skeptical. In this case you are just desperate.
This wasn't gambit, but Corsican defense. You are being arrogant as usual if you think that I care
about what you think about me. Actually, being dislike by some, I am not going to say names, but for an example weasel, is a budge of honor. You are funny though.
Give me an example when I lied or 'my purpose'.
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[personal profile] liliaeth 2017-02-01 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
'Let me try again. If somebody from jungles of Amazon claims that he went to college - it is hard to believe, '

This sentence of yours only adds in proving that Oslo is entirely right about you being a neo-nazi

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-02-02 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
You are mentally ill.
Didn't Belgium surrender to Nazis at the first glance at German solders?
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[personal profile] liliaeth 2017-02-02 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
I am perfectly sane, also, though the king may have surrendered (and ended up living in Germany for most of the war), the population kept fighting all through the war.

I should know, my grandfather was a Polish Jewish refugee, a child when he came to Belgium, a Belgian family kept him safe, hid him from the nazis.

And you know what happened after the war? King Leopold was forced to abdicate the throne in favor of his son Boudewijn because he was seen as a traitor for surrendering so quickly.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-02-02 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
If what you are saying here was true, you wouldn't throw word Nazi often and in unrelated occasion. If your story is true, then you really mentally ill, if you don't believe me - ask your grandfather. I can't even call you stupid, because stupid would do this. People who understand the meaning of the word fascism are very careful in using it. People like you cheapen the meaning behind it.
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[personal profile] liliaeth 2017-02-02 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
When talking about Trump supporters, republicans and so on, using the words fascist and neo nazi are exactly appropriate.

There's things little saying that says: "those who don't learn from history, are doomed to repeat it", and unlike the likes of you, we have learned our lesson and will call out fascists like you when we face them.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-02-04 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You have no idea what you're talking about. If I was unhinged like you are, I could say with the same success "All Hillary and democrat party supporters are fascist and neo Nazi". I would be much closer the truth, after all, in case you didn't know, KKK came out of democratic party.
You are worth of any of my attention.

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[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2017-02-01 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't seem to get it. You seem to think that I should take even basic facts about yourself for granted. I don't.

All that I know about you is this: your English is poor and your posting history follows a clear GMT+3 pattern that is atypical of people posting from the United States. You will attack me without the slightest provocation and change the subject whenever you are clearly wrong. Given that you clearly have an agenda here, why should I believe anything you say about yourself? That you're of Russian derivation, working in the U.S.? That you have family that fought the Nazis? Why shouldn't I just conclude what seems to be evident - that you are a sociopathic Russian troll?

You've lied constantly about Hillary and various leaks from her campaign. I've already pointed them out to you; I'm not going to re-litigate them here.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-02-02 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
You are a real Sherlock - everybody knows I am an immigrant-no big secret there. However to show your importance, you have present that you figured it out.

O, Gee! My cover is blown! Actually I'm a KGB colonel with sole task to drive you crazy. It was working beautifully until you reaped my mask off. I have to go back to Lubanka now.

So, you guys are done with "Bush's fault", now "Russians did it" mantra is the last resort.
Hahaha! Did I make up the leaks? I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.

[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2017-02-02 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
No, you didn't make up the leaks. You asserted that they said things they didn't say, based on sources you didn't provide and arguments you didn't make.

I'm not particularly invested in whether you're posting from the U.S. or Russia. You're a troll either way.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2017-02-02 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I am not sure what's the meaning of troll, but seems like my mission is on the right track.

[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2017-02-02 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad that you've chosen to embrace your troll-ness.