ext_39051 ([identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] politicartoons2014-07-17 02:52 pm

Breaking news: Malaysian Airliner shot down over Ukraine






A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 with 295 people aboard crashed on Thursday in eastern Ukraine near the Russian border, an area roiled by fighting between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces. Ukrainian officials said the plane might have been shot down, possibly by a Russian-made antiaircraft system. Eastern Ukraine has been roiled for months by a violent pro-Russian separatist uprising in which a number of military aircraft have been downed. But this would be the first commercial airline disaster to result from the hostilities. Despite the turmoil in eastern Ukraine, the commercial airspace over that part of the country is a heavily trafficked route and has remained open.



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The incident touched off immediate finger-pointing between Russian separatists and the Ukrainian government. Eastern Ukraine separatist leader Alexander Borodai told Reuters that Ukrainian military forces shot the jet down, but Kiev denied involvement and labeled the incident a "terrorist act." The President of Ukraine on behalf of the State expresses its deepest and most sincere condolences to the families and relatives of those killed in this terrible tragedy," said a statement released by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko's office. "Every possible search and rescue effort is being made." Separatist groups reportedly blocked Ukrainian officials from the scene, and later said the "black box," or flight data recorder, had been sent to Moscow. KT McFarland, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense under President Ronald Reagan, and a Fox News national security analyst said the attack was most likely the work of Russian separatists, not the Russian or Ukrainian armies.

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[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2014-07-17 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The genocide stopped - the drug trade is anywhere that a market can operate. NATO didn't annex the area.

[identity profile] mudryikot.livejournal.com 2014-07-21 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, you did not annex the area. You imposed some puppet governments and then drawn borders between countries according to your own wishes and not wishes of people who lived there or had interests there. Just like British drawing up India-Pakistan border.

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2014-07-21 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
Divisions along ethnic/traditional lines while punishing those responsible for crimes against humanity.

India-Pakistan has maintained the peace in that region. It worked.

[identity profile] mudryikot.livejournal.com 2014-07-21 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
India-Pakistan peace ??? Wherever have you seen such creature? They had 4 (four) wars between 1947 and now and have about as many festering ongoing conflicts like who supports whose terrorists/separatists.

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2014-07-21 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
They're nuclear powers who skirmish from time to time. It's better than the complete civil war that was brewing before the separation.

[identity profile] mudryikot.livejournal.com 2014-07-22 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
I am sure British colonial administration would have kept the tensions at probably the same or lower level.

[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2014-07-21 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no patience for crimes against humanity or those willing to turn a blind eye to such things.