[identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com 2014-07-06 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd argue we owe every bit as much to Greek Philosophers, the Code of Hammurabi and other sources as we do faith traditions.

Slavery wasn't ended by religion and the fight for human equality has been resisted at every turn by religious conservatives.

[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com 2014-07-06 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Good, rich debates can be had on just about all the particular points being touched on; libraries can be buried with the debates. I'm just taking stock of an argument that I still find creditable, in which the Christian idea of each of us being accountable to God, with each soul being a key battleground between Good and Evil, may be our most solid foundation for a thoroughgoing notion of equality.

True the leaders on the earth, even Christian, have not held to the standard, even sanctioning slavery, but this is true for the Greek philosophers as well, and probably Hammurabi too.

[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com 2014-07-07 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Then why do you ascribe it reverence beyond human?

I don't understand. What do you mean? I don't think I have been reverencing anything except to say that we cannot prove that there is no God. I'm not even saying that I believe there is a God, much less reverencing one.